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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I forgot to change the server names in
some places (in particular [config.root].mainresponser.search.domain) after
moving the software. Index requests were piling up in user.betty.queueOutgoing
to the old server, timing out then getting re-queued for 5 minutes later.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> frontier-users-bounces@userland.com
[mailto:frontier-users-bounces@userland.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Steve Hooker<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 26, 2004
4:07 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Frontier-Users@userland.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: over 200 threads
running - more info</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>What and where will be difficult to guess from a
distance. You may want to dig into the Mainresponder.root threads too at
mainResponder.background.everyMinute. But strange you say every few minutes not
every minute.<br>
<br>
Perhaps you may think about your DNS and tcp.httpclient. There's a line in that
script that goes something like this, &quot;Turn our worst case into our best
case.&quot; Perhaps 'something' like the aggregator is trying to get local
feeds and failing. Whatever it is, each thread, because of some DNS mistake
will take an extremely long time to time out. Hope this helps<br>
<br>
Steve Hooker<br>
<a href="http://www.cybersaps.org/">http://www.cybersaps.org/</a><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
Stephen S. Kelley wrote: </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The crash was only running thread.getStat from
quickscript, here are what all the threads look like:</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>{{191, 57,
&quot;system.verbs.builtins.tcp.openStream&quot;}, {191, 58,
&quot;system.verbs.builtins.tcp.httpClient&quot;}, {119, 224,
&quot;system.verbs.builtins.betty.rpc.client&quot;}, {14, 219,
&quot;system.verbs.builtins.betty.rpc.sendOneMessage&quot;}, {1, 73,
&quot;anonymous&quot;}}</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I put a return at the beginning of
system.verbs.builtins.betty.rpc.sendOneMessage until I can figure out the real
cause.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:frontier-users-bounces@userland.com">frontier-users-bounces@userland.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:frontier-users-bounces@userland.com">mailto:frontier-users-bounces@userland.com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Stephen S. Kelley<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, September 25, 2004
7:12 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:frontier-users@userland.com">frontier-users@userland.com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> over 200 threads running</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Since I&#8217;ve moved frontier 9.0 over to windows
2003 it periodically (every few minutes) opening lots of threads, frequently
over 200 which eventually go away and down to 3-5 which is usual. I&#8217;ve
tried changing the time for everyminute scheduler tasks to a large value to
deduce that it is not something getting kicked off by the scheduler.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I&#8217;ve also tried running thread.getStats to find
information about the threads, but this crashes frontier and I don&#8217;t get
anything.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Help!</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dr. Stephen S. Kelley, President<br>
VirtuState, Inc.<br>
<a href="mailto:stevek@virtustate.com">stevek@virtustate.com</a><br>
</span></font><a href="http://www.virtustate.com/"
title="http://www.virtustate.com/"><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>http://www.virtustate.com</span></font></a></p>

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<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- </span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Steve Hooker</span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="http://www.cybersaps.org">http://www.cybersaps.org</a></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>In&nbsp; UK: 0800 849 6413</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Out UK: +44 (0) 952 271 671</span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Mobile</span></font>: +44 (0) 7903 940 427 </pre></div>

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