Replacing original About

Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:51:04 -1000


This was very helpful, thank you. When selecting a story (Edit this 
page), indeed I was able to select the "W" icon (I think in the style 
I'm using, this is the replacement for the "cowskull" icon that the 
Manila manual refers to). Selecting the "W" for administrating the page 
brought up the following radio button options:

> Delete this story?
> Remove this story from the stories list?
> Turn off the byline for this story?
> Set a relative path for this message?

I was able to create a relative path for my message (/about) and it 
worked just perfect (I successfully re-arranged the plumbing for /about 
in the XML of Prefs --> Advanced --> Navigation).

The only thing that freaks me out is that I was not presented (with the 
above radio buttons) also with the radio button titled, "Make this the 
home page" ... have I set something up incorrectly in my Prefs perhaps, 
whereby when editing a Story (as a Managing  Editor), I can not see 
this radio button "Make this the home page"?

Kind of strange but maybe I accidently (or without knowing) changed 
something somewhere else on my site. I noticed that my Prefs --> 
Advanced --> Home Page Template is completely empty (no HTML text 
inside of it) -- but this is the default for the style I'm using 
because I tried to "Restore Default" and it came up the same way 
(blank, with no HTML inside of it, and the check box for "Use this 
template for home page" was unchecked). In order to promote a story to 
make it the home page, do I need to adjust some other setting here?

I suppose I can always make the Home page "/" point to a story manually 
be editing the XML in Navigation, etc. ... but am still curious as to 
why my cowskull-equivalent icon won't show the radio button "Make this 
the home page"

Thank you for your helpful feedback.


On Friday, August 30, 2002, at 11:20  AM, Marek J wrote:

> Every Story page can be assigned it's permanent url.
> When you post a story page then you bring it up using its 'Edit this 
> page' and
> you will see on the bottom the Page Admin Box with a radio button for 
> making a
> permanent url (there are other radio buttons for deleting or making a 
> story a
> home page). What you do is type a permanent url for the story.
> Let's say you type 'about' and you site's name is
> then the page will be
> if you type 'agent/bio' you will create a page called 'bio' and a 
> folder called
> 'agent'. By creating folders you can group pages so you can type
> 'agent/whatTheyaresaying' and you wil have the following pages.
> Also you can access the folder but the trick is to add a trailing 
> slash at the
> end '/' so the address to the folder is
> ''
> and NOT
> ''
> YOU MUST HAVE a Slash / at the end. Otherwise Manila will try to find 
> a page
> called 'agent' rather than a folder. (remember the 'about' is a page 
> not a
> folder)
> When you set permanent urls for your pages useing Page Admin box 
> (which is very
> easy) then they will automatically be added to your XML site structure 
> (found
> on advanced page [host]/admin/sitePrefs/default$advanced#sitestructure)
> Mine looks like this.
> <hierarchy>
>   <category name="agent" pathname="agent">
>     <story msgNum="129" name="Biography" pathname="bio"/>
>     <story msgNum="130" name="What they are saying"
> pathname="whatTheyAreSaying"/>
>     <story msgNum="131" name="RESOURCES !" pathname="resources"/>
>     <story msgNum="132" name="BOOKS YOU CAN BUY !" pathname="books"/>
>     </category>
>   <category name="conversations" pathname="conversations">
>     <category name="weinberger" pathname="weinberger">
>       <story msgNum="249" name="Loosely Joined Conversation with David
> Weinberger Part One." pathname="LooselyJoinedOne"/>
>       </category>
>     </category>
> </hierarchy>
> Then you can go to your navigation
> ([host]/admin/sitePrefs/default$advanced#navigation) page and set up 
> links like
> this.
> <navigator>
>   <item name="Discussions" pagename="/discuss"/>
>   <item name="Referers" pagename="/stats/referers"/>
>   <item name="AgentBio" pagename="/agent/bio"/>
>   <item name="OthersSay" pagename="/agent/whatTheyAreSaying"/>
>   </navigator>
> Check these page for more info:
> and this page
> Marek J
> --- DarwinPR <> wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend the best way to replace "About" page (which comes
>> "built in" when you first sign up to Weblogger)?
>> I have deleted a bunch of test discussion pages which I had originally
>> created with my new site the other day (the first message (#1) had 
>> been
>> hooked up to the default "About" page).
>> I've since created a new message (#10) and have been able to hook up a
>> similar page which I call "About Us" which has an entry in the
>> Navigation box (under Prefs --> Advanced) such as follows:
>>> <navigator>
>>>    <item name="Home" pagename="/"/>
>>>    <item name="About Us" pagename="/discuss/msgReader$10"/>
>>>  </navigator>
>> When a person clicks on the "About Us" URL off the home page, the
>> resulting page is the message (#10) as I desire, but it also include
>> the HTML forms to fill in for actually posting a response to this
>> "discussion" message.
>> By contrast, the default "About" page would render an HTML page that
>> would who only the message text, but would then have a URL below it
>> that would require the user to click on a link ("Discuss") to actually
>> post a response to this text. This is what I'm having an incredibly
>> hard time finding. Is this page only available through some sort of
>> hidden plumbing or macro in Manila (and once it is unhooked from the
>> original message via someone deleting that message (#1), that's it,
>> there's no way of re-hooking the original plumbing)?
>> Thank you for any help / suggestions.
>> -Darwin
> =====
> Marek J
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