From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Dec 2 12:00:11 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Bellows) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:00:11 -0500 Subject: New to Manila Message-ID: <5E31DD77D99CD511B8BC00D0B7B7366FA08FD6@hurricane.ransom> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C299FA.5DC599E0 Content-Type: text/plain I'm rather new to Manila as well but will be glad to pass along anything I can. I normally do my web development using Microsoft FrontPage but am using Manila for a web discussion site (discussion group). Probably the most important thing to do first is to figure out exactly what you hope to accomplish. I note that you have an .edu extension...are you planning to use this in a school environment? Scott H. Bellows Dir. Academic Tech. 305.460.2101 -----Original Message----- From: Ashish Bandi [mailto:Ashish.Bandi@mail.uh.edu] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:35 PM To: manila-newbies@userland.com Subject: New to Manila Hi I am a new user of Manila. I don't know if this is stupid to ask but I would appreciate if anyone could help me with it. I want your help to figure out how do I start building my site with Manila. Thanks, Ashish. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C299FA.5DC599E0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm rather  new to = Manila as well but will be glad to pass along anything I = can.  I normally do my web = development using Microsoft FrontPage but am using = Manila for a web discussion site (discussion group).   Probably the most = important  thing to do first is to figure = out exactly what you hope to accomplish.  = I note that you have an .edu extension...are you planning to use this in a school environment?

 

=

Scott  H. = Bellows

Dir. Academic = Tech.

305.460.2101=

 

=

-----Original = Message-----
From: Ashish Bandi [mailto:Ashish.Bandi@mail.uh.edu]
Sent: Monday, November = 25, 2002 1:35 PM
To: = manila-newbies@userland.com
Subject: New to = Manila

 

Hi =

 

I am a new user of Manila. = I don't know if this is stupid to ask but I would appreciate if anyone could = help me with it. I want your help to figure out how do I start building my site = with Manila.

 

Thanks,<= /o:p>

Ashish.<= /o:p>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C299FA.5DC599E0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Dec 2 21:29:13 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dan Mitchell) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 13:29:13 -0800 Subject: Surveys problem? In-Reply-To: <5E31DD77D99CD511B8BC00D0B7B7366FA08FD6@hurricane.ransom> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3121680554_1148368 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable One of my web-savvy students today told me that he was able to make the edi= t link work on one of my sites by substituting the word EDIT in the RUN url. He also was able to substitute DELETE! Yikes! Hi is logged in as a site member, but not as an editor of any sort. Further explanation: This link appears to him when he goes to the survey page: http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/run/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHighIsThe= S ky001 He can change it manually to http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/EDIT/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHighIsTh= e Sky001 or http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/DELETE/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHighIs= T heSky001 and it works!=20 Not good, right? Dan -- d a n m i t c h e l l music department | de anza college http://faculty.deanza.fhda.edu/mitchelldan/ office: 408.864.8511 apple distinguished educator | class of 2000 Please address all college email to: mitchelldan AT deanza dot edu (Replace =B3AT=B2 with =B3@=B2 and =B3dot=B2 with =B3.=B2 to form the email address.) --B_3121680554_1148368 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Surveys problem? One of my web-savvy students today told me that he was= able to make the edit link work on one of my sites by substituting the word= EDIT in the RUN url. He also was able to substitute DELETE! Yikes!

Hi is logged in as a site member, but not as an editor of any sort.  <= BR>
Further explanation:

This link appears to him when he goes to the survey page:

http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/run/dan@mitch= ell.fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001

He can change it manually to

http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/EDIT/dan@mitc= hell.fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001
or
http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/DELETE/dan@mi= tchell.fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001

and it works!

Not good, right?

Dan
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music department | de anza college
http://faculty.deanza.fhda.edu/mitchelldan/=
office: 408.864.8511
apple distinguished educator | class of 2000
Please address all college = email to: mitchelldan AT deanza dot edu
(Replace “AT” with “@” and “dot” wi= th “.” to form the email address.)
 --B_3121680554_1148368-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Dec 2 23:50:09 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Lawrence Lee) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:50:09 -0800 Subject: Surveys problem? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001301c29a5d$924ea9a0$6401a8c0@buntzen> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C29A1A.842B69A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does he see the Editors Only menubar on the site? I tried the same thing on a test Manila site and wasn't able to edit/delete a survey while logged out or signed in a regular member. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mitchell Sent: December 2, 2002 1:29 PM To: Manila-Newbies Subject: Surveys problem? One of my web-savvy students today told me that he was able to make the edit link work on one of my sites by substituting the word EDIT in the RUN url. He also was able to substitute DELETE! Yikes! Hi is logged in as a site member, but not as an editor of any sort. Further explanation: This link appears to him when he goes to the survey page: http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/run/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHighIs TheSky001 He can change it manually to http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/EDIT/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHighI sTheSky001 or http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/DELETE/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHig hIsTheSky001 and it works! Not good, right? Dan ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C29A1A.842B69A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Does=20 he see the Editors Only menubar on the site? I tried the same thing on a = test=20 Manila site and wasn't able to edit/delete a survey while logged out or = signed=20 in a regular member.
 
Lawrence
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 manila-newbies-admin@userland.com = [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]=20 On Behalf Of Dan Mitchell
Sent: December 2, 2002 1:29 = PM
To: Manila-Newbies
Subject: Surveys=20 problem?

One of my web-savvy = students=20 today told me that he was able to make the edit link work on one of my = sites=20 by substituting the word EDIT in the RUN url. He also was able to = substitute=20 DELETE! Yikes!

Hi is logged in as a site member, but not as an = editor=20 of any sort.  

Further explanation:

This link = appears to=20 him when he goes to the survey page:
  
http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/run/dan@mitchell.= fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001

He=20 can change it manually to

http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/EDIT/dan@mitchell= .fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001
or
http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/DELETE/dan@mitche= ll.fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001

and=20 it works!

Not good,=20 right?

Dan
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C29A1A.842B69A0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 3 11:42:21 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 06:42:21 -0500 Subject: How to determine the date people register at /stats/members Message-ID: How would you determine the date people registered at /stats/members ?... . From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 00:22:05 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Gino Roncaglia) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 01:22:05 +0100 Subject: Dynamic IP problem Message-ID: <000201c29bf4$57d668b0$2101a8c0@voyager> I have just installed Frontier and Manila on my computer, but I have some problems apparently connected with URL and IP settings. I have a small home network of 3 computers, all connected to the net through an ADSL router+switcher. Each computer has its (dummy) IP address 192.168.1.xx . My router is instructed to use one of the computer as HTTP server. My ISP only gives me dynamic IP address, and I use dyndns to associate a static url of the form myhost.dyndsn.org to my dynamic IP address. Using IIS, I had no problem in publishing my site on the server and reaching it through the 'myhost.dyndns.org' address. When I uninstalled IIS and installed Frontier - which is now the only web server running - the default Manila home site was automatically created using the (dummy) IP address of the server: 192.168.1.33. I can work on it from my computer, but when I try to reach it from outside using the 'myhost.dyndns.org' address I only seem able to reach the home page: all subsequent operations - like logging in, reading sub-sites... - give me a page not found error. Apparently, Manila uses the dummy 192.168.1.33 address as basic url for all those tasks, and of course this url won't work from outside my network. I tried to substitute in the Manage Stie:Home page of the Admin site the default url http://192.168.1.33/ with http://myhost.dynamicdns.org : I don't know if this works from outside my network (my be I should substitute the new url to ALL the instances of http://192.168.1.33/ in the Admin pages??), but if I make this substitution it seems that I can no longer work on the site from INSIDE my network (I get a page not found error). May be it's a dummy question with a simple answer... but I am really a newbie here. Any suggestion? Thanks, Gino Roncaglia ***************************** Dr. Gino Roncaglia Universita' della Tuscia Istituto di Scienze umane http://www.merzweb.com http://www.unitus.it ***************************** From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 14:54:50 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:54:50 -0500 Subject: searching a Manila site In-Reply-To: <5E31DD77D99CD511B8BC00D0B7B7366FA08FD6@hurricane.ransom> References: <5E31DD77D99CD511B8BC00D0B7B7366FA08FD6@hurricane.ransom> Message-ID: <20021205145450.9213@pop2.valley.net> I've followed the instructions at but I can't get anything to show up in the config.mainResponder.data table (there's meant to be a searchQueue table there, but it never creates one - when I created one, nothing went into it). Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I have the default settings in the search prefs for the site I want to search, using the dns name of the machine like machine.domain.net, port 80 (I'm setting up the search engine on the same machine the site is running on) and the name of the procedure was left at mainResponder.search.index, and the XML-RPC path left at /RPC2. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong? is there a better approch to making asearch link available for a manila site? Running Frontier 9 under OS 9 thanks. Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 17:36:27 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:36:27 -0500 Subject: searching a Manila site {2} In-Reply-To: <20021205145450.9213@pop2.valley.net> References: <20021205145450.9213@pop2.valley.net> Message-ID: <20021205173627.17477@pop2.valley.net> on 12/5/02, Bob Raiselis wrote: >I've followed the instructions at > > > >but I can't get anything to show up in the config.mainResponder.data >table (there's meant to be a searchQueue table there, but it never >creates one - when I created one, nothing went into it). Ok, now I'm using the {searchThisSite (buttontext:"Search", flThisSiteOnly:true, thisSiteOnlyCheckText:"This site only")} macro for the search form, and it seems to work, but there is still nothing in the config.mainResponder.data table. Where is the search information being stored now? I need to be able to go in to delete certain administrative pages from the search index, unless there is an easier way to specify that a story should not get indexed. thanks. Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 17:39:46 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:39:46 -0500 Subject: How get the date members join. Message-ID: How can you figure out what date members joined as listed at http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stats/Members From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 3 13:48:21 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Prashanth G Gane) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 19:18:21 +0530 Subject: Help needed regarding uploading of folder using html Message-ID: <006501c29ad2$a6e6d2f0$acfea8c0@pgane> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C29B00.BE0F6360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Respected Sir / Madam, I came across your posting regarding help for uploading folder that = contains files. I have the same need for my application. If you have = found out any solution...please let me know. The site where we found the listing is .. http://lists.userland.com/pipermail/manila-newbies/2002-January/001140.ht= ml Regards, Prashanth ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C29B00.BE0F6360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Respected Sir / Madam,
 
I came across your posting regarding help = for=20 uploading folder that contains files. I have the same need for my = application.=20 If you have found out any solution...please let me know.
The site where we found the listing is = ..
http://lists.userland.com/pipermail/manila-newbies/2002-Janua= ry/001140.html
 
Regards,
Prashanth
------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C29B00.BE0F6360-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 3 18:54:15 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dan Mitchell) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:54:15 -0800 Subject: Surveys problem? In-Reply-To: <001301c29a5d$924ea9a0$6401a8c0@buntzen> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3121757656_5808043 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Lawrence: I=B9ll check this out and let you know. I didn=B9t actually see the problem =AD h= e just reported it via email. Thanks. Dan On 12/2/02 3:50 PM, "Lawrence Lee" wrote: > Does he see the Editors Only menubar on the site? I tried the same thing = on a > test Manila site and wasn't able to edit/delete a survey while logged out= or > signed in a regular member. > =20 > Lawrence >> -----Original Message----- >> From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com >> [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mitchell >> Sent: December 2, 2002 1:29 PM >> To: Manila-Newbies >> Subject: Surveys problem? >>=20 >> One of my web-savvy students today told me that he was able to make the = edit >> link work on one of my sites by substituting the word EDIT in the RUN ur= l. He >> also was able to substitute DELETE! Yikes! >>=20 >> Hi is logged in as a site member, but not as an editor of any sort. >>=20 >> Further explanation: >>=20 >> This link appears to him when he goes to the survey page: >> =20 >> http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/run/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHighIs= TheSk >> y001 >>=20 >> He can change it manually to >>=20 >> http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/EDIT/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHighI= sTheS >> ky001 >> or >> http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/DELETE/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHig= hIsTh >> eSky001 >>=20 >> and it works!=20 >>=20 >> Not good, right? >>=20 >> Dan >=20 -- d a n m i t c h e l l music department | de anza college http://faculty.deanza.fhda.edu/mitchelldan/ office: 408.864.8511 apple distinguished educator | class of 2000 Please address all college email to: mitchelldan AT deanza dot edu (Replace =B3AT=B2 with =B3@=B2 and =B3dot=B2 with =B3.=B2 to form the email address.) --B_3121757656_5808043 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Surveys problem? Lawrence:

I’ll check this out and let you know. I didn’t actually see the= problem – he just reported it via email.

Thanks.

Dan

On 12/2/02 3:50 PM, "Lawrence Lee" <lawrence@userland.com> = wrote:

= Does he see the Editors Only menubar on the site? I tried the same thing on = a test Manila site and wasn't able to edit/delete a survey while logged out = or signed in a regular member.
Lawrence
-----Or= iginal Message-----
From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com= [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mitchell
Sent: December 2, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Manila-Newbies
Subject: Surveys problem?

One of my web-savvy students today told = me that he was able to make the edit link work on one of my sites by substit= uting the word EDIT in the RUN url. He also was able to substitute DELETE! Y= ikes!

Hi is logged in as a site member, but not as an editor of any sort.  <= BR>
Further explanation:

This link appears to him when he goes to the survey page:
  
http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/ru= n/dan@mitchell.fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001

He can change it manually to

http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/EDIT/dan@mitc= hell.fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001
or
http://www.domain.com/music1/surveys/DELETE/dan@mi= tchell.fhda.edu/howHighIsTheSky001

and it works!

Not good, right?

Dan



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d  &nbs= p; a    n        m &n= bsp;  i    t    c    = h    e    l    l

music department | de anza college
http://faculty.deanza.fhda.edu/mitchelldan/=
office: 408.864.8511
apple distinguished educator | class of 2000
Please address all college = email to: mitchelldan AT deanza dot edu
(Replace “AT” with “@” and “dot” wi= th “.” to form the email address.)
 --B_3121757656_5808043-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 20:58:53 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:58:53 -0700 Subject: How get the date members join. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5C9E9462-0894-11D7-B80B-003065D606C2@mac.com> --Apple-Mail-12-685191163 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Don, you know I don't think that data is stored anywhere in manila by default. I am sure one could add the feature. Sam D On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 10:39 AM, Don Saklad wrote: > How can you figure out what date members joined as listed at > http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stats/Members > > ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== --Apple-Mail-12-685191163 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Don, you know I don't think that data is stored anywhere in manila by default. I am sure one could add the feature. Sam D On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 10:39 AM, Don Saklad wrote: How can you figure out what date members joined as listed at http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stats/Members ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== --Apple-Mail-12-685191163-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 21:25:09 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 16:25:09 -0500 Subject: How get the date members join. In-Reply-To: <5C9E9462-0894-11D7-B80B-003065D606C2@mac.com> (sdevore@mac.com) References: <5C9E9462-0894-11D7-B80B-003065D606C2@mac.com> Message-ID: Thank you Sam! ...How would it be added, if not available already?... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 23:37:07 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:37:07 +1100 Subject: How get the date members join. Message-ID: <4D6E6CCBC9CED61192720060B06B3DD7C74253@ACTMAIL2> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29CB7.3949A0B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>How can you figure out what date members joined as listed at >Don, you know I don't think that data is stored anywhere in manila by default The verb timeCreated (adr) will give you the time the member table was created. You could use it to check the date the member's info table was created. Of course, if you're using one member table for multiple memberships, that approach won't work. cheers, Christopher ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29CB7.3949A0B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>How can you figure out what date members joined as listed at
 
>Don, you know I don't think that data is stored anywhere in manila by default
 
The verb timeCreated (adr) will give you the time the member table was created. You could use it to check the date the member's info table was created. Of course, if you're using one member table for multiple memberships, that approach won't work.
 
cheers,
Christopher
------_=_NextPart_001_01C29CB7.3949A0B0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 23:46:28 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:46:28 -0500 Subject: How get the date members join. In-Reply-To: <4D6E6CCBC9CED61192720060B06B3DD7C74253@ACTMAIL2> (CShort@abare.gov.au) References: <4D6E6CCBC9CED61192720060B06B3DD7C74253@ACTMAIL2> Message-ID: Thank you Christopher Where's the verb timeCreated (adr) ?... for http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stats/members Cheers! oo__ don saklad From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Dec 5 22:14:43 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:14:43 -0700 Subject: How get the date members join. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The best way would be to use a callback in config.manila.callbacks.signUp but there isn't one, one could be added if manilaSuites.members.signUpCallback had a call to manilaSuite.callbacks.callbackLoop (adrCallbacks, adrUserCallbacks, adrMsg, adrSite, url, adrMember) in it, hey Jake or userland any hope of a callback for a signup call back? Now that being said we could modify the above script to give us this behavior (something I do not like to do) or we could add a final filter to your server that is only called when someone is joining as a new member (just look at the pta^.path value. And go on from there. If we coded it right we could change it easily to support the callback if userland adds it later. Sam D On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 02:25 PM, Don Saklad wrote: > Thank you Sam! > > ...How would it be added, if not available already?... > > ======== Take a hired hand into the wild "Frontier" support and scripting for "UserLand Frontier" and "Radio UserLand" email me at sam@teachesme.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 6 00:10:39 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:10:39 -0700 Subject: How get the date members join. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <26DAC7FC-08AF-11D7-8E3C-003065D606C2@mac.com> --Apple-Mail-12-696697373 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Don it's not there and that was my point is that this is something that would have to be added on the server side, probably by creating a custom stats page and initiating some kind of call back though one could walk the table on the server and use the timeCreated verb to make a value that could be read by the stats pages I think. Sam D On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 04:46 PM, Don Saklad wrote: > Thank you Christopher > > Where's the verb timeCreated (adr) ?... for > http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stats/members > > > > > Cheers! > oo__ don saklad > > ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== --Apple-Mail-12-696697373 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Don it's not there and that was my point is that this is something that would have to be added on the server side, probably by creating a custom stats page and initiating some kind of call back though one could walk the table on the server and use the timeCreated verb to make a value that could be read by the stats pages I think. Sam D On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 04:46 PM, Don Saklad wrote: Thank you Christopher Where's the verb timeCreated (adr) ?... for http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stats/members Cheers! oo__ don saklad ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== --Apple-Mail-12-696697373-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 6 04:07:19 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:07:19 +1100 Subject: How get the date members join. Message-ID: <4D6E6CCBC9CED61192720060B06B3DD7C74256@ACTMAIL2> >Where's the verb timeCreated (adr) ? oh - as Sam says - the information I provided isto allow you write a script to dynamically generate a page that display's the information you are after. It's not a standard macro in Manila that would automatically generate the page you want. My apolgoies for the misunderstanding. Cheers, Christopher ps - I never see messages I send to this list - I don't ever recall changing a setting, that any of the userland operated lists did this. Any ideas on how to change that setting? From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 6 08:27:15 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 03:27:15 -0500 Subject: How get the date members join. In-Reply-To: <4D6E6CCBC9CED61192720060B06B3DD7C74256@ACTMAIL2> (CShort@abare.gov.au) References: <4D6E6CCBC9CED61192720060B06B3DD7C74256@ACTMAIL2> Message-ID: Thank you ! ...Regrettably, I'm not a programmer! From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 6 12:07:38 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Bellows) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:07:38 -0500 Subject: Help needed regarding uploading of folder using html Message-ID: <5E31DD77D99CD511B8BC00D0B7B7366FA0904A@hurricane.ransom> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29D20.11B082D0 Content-Type: text/plain I'm hardly an expert with Manila but understand that using Gems is the route you need to go. Good luck. Scott H. Bellows Dir. Academic Tech. 305.460.2101 -----Original Message----- From: Prashanth G Gane [mailto:prashanthgane@rediffmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:48 AM To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Subject: Help needed regarding uploading of folder using html Respected Sir / Madam, I came across your posting regarding help for uploading folder that contains files. I have the same need for my application. If you have found out any solution...please let me know. The site where we found the listing is .. http://lists.userland.com/pipermail/manila-newbies/2002-January/001140.html Regards, Prashanth ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29D20.11B082D0 Content-Type: text/html

I'm hardly an expert with Manila but understand that using Gems is the route you need to go.  Good luck.

 

Scott  H. Bellows

Dir. Academic Tech.

305.460.2101

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Prashanth G Gane [mailto:prashanthgane@rediffmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com
Subject: Help needed regarding uploading of folder using html

 

Respected Sir / Madam,

 

I came across your posting regarding help for uploading folder that contains files. I have the same need for my application. If you have found out any solution...please let me know.

The site where we found the listing is ..

 

Regards,

Prashanth

------_=_NextPart_001_01C29D20.11B082D0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 6 17:00:08 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (jean-claude faidherbe) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:00:08 +0000 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: fgh _________________________________________________________________ MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! http://search.msn.fr/worldwide.asp From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 6 18:17:17 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:17:17 -0600 Subject: Help needed regarding uploading of folder using html In-Reply-To: <5E31DD77D99CD511B8BC00D0B7B7366FA0904A@hurricane.ransom> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206121443.00a426b0@pop.sigecom.net> --=====================_666449==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have used Gems to share files with other Manila users. When uploading the Gems it walks us through identifying what file on our PC hard disk we want to copy to the Manila site, and by what name we want it known in the Gem directory. It works pretty smoothly. I have only used it for one file at a time, such as Word documents. The other users of the site can then either view the file at the Manila site, or download a personal copy to their PC hard disk. >I'm hardly an expert with Manila but understand that using Gems is the >route you need to go. Good luck. > > > >Scott H. Bellows > >Dir. Academic Tech. > >305.460.2101 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Prashanth G Gane [mailto:prashanthgane@rediffmail.com] > > >Respected Sir / Madam, > > >I came across your posting regarding help for uploading folder that >contains files. I have the same need for my application. If you have found >out any solution...please let me know. > >The site where we found the listing is .. > >http://lists.userland.com/pipermail/manila-newbies/2002-January/001140.html > > > >Regards, > >Prashanth - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ Al at home http://ryze.org/view.php?who=Al9Mac Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ --=====================_666449==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I have used Gems to share files with other Manila users.
When uploading the Gems it walks us through identifying what file on our PC hard disk we want to copy to the Manila site, and by what name we want it known in the Gem directory.  It works pretty smoothly.  I have only used it for one file at a time, such as Word documents.
The other users of the site can then either view the file at the Manila site, or download a personal copy to their PC hard disk.

I'm hardly an expert with Manila but understand that using Gems is the route you need to go.  Good luck.

 

Scott  H. Bellows

Dir. Academic Tech.

305.460.2101

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Prashanth G Gane [mailto:prashanthgane@rediffmail.com]


Respected Sir / Madam,


I came across your posting regarding help for uploading folder that contains files. I have the same need for my application. If you have found out any solution...please let me know.

The site where we found the listing is ..

http://lists.userland.com/pipermail/manila-newbies/2002-January/001140.html

 

Regards,

Prashanth

-
Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora)
Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/
Al at home http://ryze.org/view.php?who=Al9Mac
Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/


 --=====================_666449==_.ALT-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Dec 11 13:13:57 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:13:57 -0800 Subject: how to delete a news item Message-ID: Is there a way to delete a news item once it is posted to the homepage? Thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Dec 11 14:37:00 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Calvin House) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 06:37:00 -0800 Subject: how to delete a news item In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Click on the little "discuss" hyperlink below the news item. Scroll down to the bottom of the page comes up and there will be a dialogue box directed to the editor, asking whether you wish to delete the item. Calvin House -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:14 AM To: manila-newbies@userland.com Subject: how to delete a news item Is there a way to delete a news item once it is posted to the homepage? Thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Dec 11 16:14:24 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:14:24 -0800 Subject: how to delete a news item In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: thanks. I was clicking on the "edit" button instead. (It seems to me that deleting is more of an edit function than a discussion function.) Scott >Click on the little "discuss" hyperlink below the news item. Scroll down to >the bottom of the page comes up and there will be a dialogue box directed to >the editor, asking whether you wish to delete the item. > >Calvin House > >-----Original Message----- >From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com >[mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of Scott >Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:14 AM >To: manila-newbies@userland.com >Subject: how to delete a news item > > >Is there a way to delete a news item once it is posted to the homepage? >Thanks >Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Dec 11 17:44:39 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:44:39 -0800 Subject: how to wrap text around an image Message-ID: --============_-1172493814==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The UserGuide says: "Pictures are left-aligned with one line of the subsequent text appearing beside them. You can use two returns before and after the quoted Title if you don't want text beside a Picture." Is there a way to position pictures differently? Can I wrap text around an image that is aligned to the left? Can I align it to the right? Thanks Scott --============_-1172493814==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" how to wrap text around an image

The UserGuide says: "Pictures are left-aligned with one line of the subsequent text appearing beside them. You can use two returns before and after the quoted Title if you don't want text beside a Picture."

Is there a way to position pictures differently? Can I wrap text around an image that is aligned to the left? Can I align it to the right?

Thanks
Scott
--============_-1172493814==_ma============-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Dec 11 17:48:38 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:48:38 -0500 Subject: how to wrap text around an image In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021211174838.29851@pop2.valley.net> on 12/11/02, Scott wrote: >The UserGuide says: "Pictures are left-aligned with one line of the >subsequent text appearing beside them. You can use two returns before >and after the quoted Title if you don't want text beside a Picture." > >Is there a way to position pictures differently? Can I wrap text >around an image that is aligned to the left? Can I align it to the >right? user {pictureref("picture name",align:"left")} or {pictureref("picture name",align:"right")} hope this helps. Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Dec 11 18:30:51 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:30:51 -0800 Subject: how to wrap text around an image In-Reply-To: <20021211174838.29851@pop2.valley.net> References: <20021211174838.29851@pop2.valley.net> Message-ID: >on 12/11/02, Scott wrote: > >>The UserGuide says: "Pictures are left-aligned with one line of the >>subsequent text appearing beside them. You can use two returns before >>and after the quoted Title if you don't want text beside a Picture." >> >>Is there a way to position pictures differently? Can I wrap text >>around an image that is aligned to the left? Can I align it to the >>right? > >user > >{pictureref("picture name",align:"left")} >or >{pictureref("picture name",align:"right")} > >hope this helps. > >Bob That worked great! thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 11:26:43 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Jim Byrne) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:26:43 +0000 Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm designing a site that will be used by blind and visually impaired users. I want to use the built-in discussion forum but there are lots of things I need to change - one thing I need to do is get rid of the calendar - or at the very least move it to the bottom of the page. Any ideas how I do this? Thanks, Jim -- Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the Web. Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible Website Management Training. The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 14:54:25 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:54:25 -0500 Subject: How to make the weblog more accessible for people using vocalization software. In-Reply-To: (message from Jim Byrne on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:26:43 +0000) References: Message-ID: How would I make the weblog more accessible for people with limited vision using vocalization software?... http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com Most of the information around the web about improving accessibility is complicated. Maybe the templates themselves could be improved by people providing the templates. From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 15:12:46 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Jim Byrne) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:12:46 +0000 Subject: How to make the weblog more accessible for people using vocalization software. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You should find lots of useful information on the Making Connections website at http://www.mcu.org.uk. Making a weblog accessible is no different from making any other website accessible - flexible design is the key. Ensure that you don't get in the way of the users ability to set their own browser preferences, e.g. don't use absolute units to set font sizes ( pixels or pts are absolute, em units or percentages are relative units - use relative units) Ensure that users can set their own text and background colours. If there is lots of navigation on the left or at the top of each page, provides some way of jumping over the navigation straight to content (see http://jimthatcher.com for solutions) Don't use the font tag to set fonts or sizes - use style sheets instead - ideally use style sheets for layout as well (I know that's difficult but now's the time to start experimenting if you haven't tried before) Use HTML as it was intended - i.e. put your headings within Header tags, your paragraphs within paragraph tags. Add descriptive labels to images, particularly navigation images - the labels should describe the content of the page being linked to. Add empty alt tags to decorative images, i.e. alt=" " (that's a space) Validate your HTML and CSS. Reading a web page is a very 'linear' experience for someone using a screen reader - sighted users can scan quickly - it's less easy for someone using a screen reader. Bear that in mind when you are laying out your pages. Anyway, I'll not go on, there's lots about accessible design on the web and on the Making Connections Unit site - happy learning. All the best, Jim on 12/13/02 2:54 PM, Don Saklad at dsaklad@zurich.ai.mit.edu wrote: > How would I make the weblog more accessible for people with limited > vision using vocalization software?... > http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com > > Most of the information around the web about improving accessibility > is complicated. Maybe the templates themselves could be improved > by people providing the templates. > -- Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the Web. Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible Website Management Training. The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 15:20:57 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:20:57 -0500 Subject: How to make the weblog more accessible for people using vocalization software. In-Reply-To: (message from Jim Byrne on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:12:46 +0000) References: Message-ID: Thank you Jim Byrne! The difficulty with that instructive material is it's for people with a good understanding of how to do those things. For the rest of us just using the format as provided, the instructive information needs to detail step by step how to do it... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 15:22:37 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:22:37 -0500 Subject: How to make the weblog more accessible for people using vocalization software. In-Reply-To: (message from Jim Byrne on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:12:46 +0000) References: Message-ID: For example, what's one or two easy things I might be able to do to make things more accessible?... at http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 15:38:54 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Jim Byrne) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:38:54 +0000 Subject: How to make the weblog more accessible for people using vocalization software. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I suggest you learn a little basic HTML, take a deep breath, copy the weblog template into a text editor, strip out all the HTML leaving just the macros, and then add your own basic HTML. Copy the resulting template back into your weblog application - and breath out. Scary - but it will free you up from being controlled by the application - and you will be able to fix the page yourself when it screws up. If you web pages is primarily aimed at people who are blind or visually impaired they will thank you for providing them with a page that is simple to understand; and if you have headings and links that use text describing the pages that are linked to - many user will be able to summarise the pages using their screen reading software. Read this page first: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/htmlnotes.html Then this page: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/deafblindaccess.html Then this page: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/whatisaw.html Then this accessible overview of the W3C guidelines: http://www.w3.org/WAI/wcag-curric/overgid.htm All the best, Jim on 12/13/02 3:20 PM, Don Saklad at dsaklad@zurich.ai.mit.edu wrote: > Thank you Jim Byrne! > > The difficulty with that instructive material is it's for people > with a good understanding of how to do those things. For the rest > of us just using the format as provided, the instructive information > needs to detail step by step how to do it... > -- Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the Web. Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible Website Management Training. The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 16:42:03 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (G. Secondino) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:42:03 -0500 Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Jim, You will need to move the calendar macro in your page template. See my home page http://iseeIsay.editthispage.com/ and my discussion group http://iseeIsay.editthispage.com/discuss/ View page source for examples. Ciao, Gary Website - http://www.webstir.com/ Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ > From: Jim Byrne > Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:26:43 +0000 > To: > Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? > > I'm designing a site that will be used by blind and visually impaired users. > I want to use the built-in discussion forum but there are lots of things I > need to change - one thing I need to do is get rid of the calendar - or at > the very least move it to the bottom of the page. > > Any ideas how I do this? > > Thanks, > Jim > > -- > Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian > University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 > > Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the > Web. > > Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible > Website Management Training. > > The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ > Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: > http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 16:49:53 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (G. Secondino) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:49:53 -0500 Subject: How to make the weblog more accessible for people using vocalization software. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jim, As you are interested in accessible web site I suggest you visit Mark Pilgrim's site. http://diveintoaccessibility.org/ Regards, Gary Website - http://www.webstir.com/ Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ > From: Jim Byrne > Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:38:54 +0000 > To: > Subject: Re: How to make the weblog more accessible for people using > vocalization software. > > I suggest you learn a little basic HTML, take a deep breath, copy the > weblog template into a text editor, strip out all the HTML leaving just the > macros, and then add your own basic HTML. Copy the resulting template back > into your weblog application - and breath out. > > Scary - but it will free you up from being controlled by the application - > and you will be able to fix the page yourself when it screws up. > > If you web pages is primarily aimed at people who are blind or visually > impaired they will thank you for providing them with a page that is simple > to understand; and if you have headings and links that use text describing > the pages that are linked to - many user will be able to summarise the pages > using their screen reading software. > > Read this page first: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/htmlnotes.html > Then this page: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/deafblindaccess.html > Then this page: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/whatisaw.html > Then this accessible overview of the W3C guidelines: > http://www.w3.org/WAI/wcag-curric/overgid.htm > > All the best, > Jim > > on 12/13/02 3:20 PM, Don Saklad at dsaklad@zurich.ai.mit.edu wrote: > >> Thank you Jim Byrne! >> >> The difficulty with that instructive material is it's for people >> with a good understanding of how to do those things. For the rest >> of us just using the format as provided, the instructive information >> needs to detail step by step how to do it... >> > > > -- > Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian > University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 > > Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the > Web. > > Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible > Website Management Training. > > The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ > Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: > http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 17:24:33 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Jim Byrne) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:24:33 +0000 Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gary, I can add the {calendar} macro to my main template - and the calendar will appear wherever I put it - but this means all of my pages now have a calendar on them; and I want a calendar on the rest of my pages even less than I do on the discussion forum. I take it that is what you mean? Thanks, Jim on 12/13/02 4:42 PM, G. Secondino at pgs@webstir.com wrote: > Hello Jim, > > You will need to move the calendar macro in your page template. See my home > page http://iseeIsay.editthispage.com/ and my discussion group > http://iseeIsay.editthispage.com/discuss/ View page source for examples. > > Ciao, > > Gary > > > Website - http://www.webstir.com/ > Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com > Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ > > >> From: Jim Byrne >> Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com >> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:26:43 +0000 >> To: >> Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? >> >> I'm designing a site that will be used by blind and visually impaired users. >> I want to use the built-in discussion forum but there are lots of things I >> need to change - one thing I need to do is get rid of the calendar - or at >> the very least move it to the bottom of the page. >> >> Any ideas how I do this? >> >> Thanks, >> Jim >> >> -- >> Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian >> University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 >> >> Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the >> Web. >> >> Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible >> Website Management Training. >> >> The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ >> Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: >> http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ >> > -- Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the Web. Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible Website Management Training. The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 18:21:20 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (G. Secondino) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:21:20 -0500 Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jim, As I understood your request you didn't want any calendar but would accept one at the bottom of the pages, hence my reply about moving the macro. If you don't want a calendar at all simply exclude the macro from your template. You are then faced with the question, how are people going to navigate on my site? Regards, Gary Website - http://www.webstir.com/ Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ > From: Jim Byrne > Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:24:33 +0000 > To: > Subject: Re: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? > > Gary, > > I can add the {calendar} macro to my main template - and the calendar will > appear wherever I put it - but this means all of my pages now have a > calendar on them; and I want a calendar on the rest of my pages even less > than I do on the discussion forum. > > I take it that is what you mean? > > Thanks, > Jim > on 12/13/02 4:42 PM, G. Secondino at pgs@webstir.com wrote: > >> Hello Jim, >> >> You will need to move the calendar macro in your page template. See my home >> page http://iseeIsay.editthispage.com/ and my discussion group >> http://iseeIsay.editthispage.com/discuss/ View page source for examples. >> >> Ciao, >> >> Gary >> >> >> Website - http://www.webstir.com/ >> Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com >> Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ >> >> >>> From: Jim Byrne >>> Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com >>> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:26:43 +0000 >>> To: >>> Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? >>> >>> I'm designing a site that will be used by blind and visually impaired users. >>> I want to use the built-in discussion forum but there are lots of things I >>> need to change - one thing I need to do is get rid of the calendar - or at >>> the very least move it to the bottom of the page. >>> >>> Any ideas how I do this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jim >>> >>> -- >>> Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian >>> University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 >>> >>> Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the >>> Web. >>> >>> Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible >>> Website Management Training. >>> >>> The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ >>> Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: >>> http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ >>> >> > > > -- > Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian > University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 > > Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the > Web. > > Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible > Website Management Training. > > The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ > Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: > http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Dec 11 13:59:07 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:59:07 -0500 Subject: how to delete a news item In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021211085850.03e06cf0@email.wcc.vccs.edu> At 05:13 AM 12/11/2002 -0800, Scott wrote: >Is there a way to delete a news item once it is posted to the homepage? Yes. Go to the discussion group view and delete it there. David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Dec 11 22:25:37 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:25:37 -0700 Subject: how to wrap text around an image In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <78F28516-0D57-11D7-B4BB-003065D606C2@mac.com> --Apple-Mail-14--938688436 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed see http://macros.userland.com/basic/pictureRef for more info on this (and other macros) Sam D On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 11:30 AM, Scott wrote: >> on 12/11/02, Scott wrote: >> >>> The UserGuide says: "Pictures are left-aligned with one line of the >>> subsequent text appearing beside them. You can use two returns before >>> and after the quoted Title if you don't want text beside a Picture." >>> >>> Is there a way to position pictures differently? Can I wrap text >>> around an image that is aligned to the left? Can I align it to the >>> right? >> >> user >> >> {pictureref("picture name",align:"left")} >> or >> {pictureref("picture name",align:"right")} >> >> hope this helps. >> >> Bob > > > That worked great! thanks > Scott > > > ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== --Apple-Mail-14--938688436 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII see http://macros.userland.com/basic/pictureRef for more info on this (and other macros) Sam D On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 11:30 AM, Scott wrote: on 12/11/02, Scott wrote: The UserGuide says: "Pictures are left-aligned with one line of the subsequent text appearing beside them. You can use two returns before and after the quoted Title if you don't want text beside a Picture." Is there a way to position pictures differently? Can I wrap text around an image that is aligned to the left? Can I align it to the right? user {pictureref("picture name",align:"left")} or {pictureref("picture name",align:"right")} hope this helps. Bob That worked great! thanks Scott ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== --Apple-Mail-14--938688436-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 18:31:23 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:31:23 -0500 Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021213133004.01d49018@email.wcc.vccs.edu> At 01:21 PM 12/13/2002 -0500, G. Secondino wrote: >As I understood your request you didn't want any calendar but would accept >one at the bottom of the pages, hence my reply about moving the macro. If >you don't want a calendar at all simply exclude the macro from your >template. You are then faced with the question, how are people going to >navigate on my site? If you don't have the {calendar} macro, then a calendar is automatically inserted for you I believe. You can get around this by "escaping" the {calendar} macro, like this: *I think* David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 19:06:14 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:06:14 -0500 Subject: How to make the weblog more accessible for people using vocalization software. In-Reply-To: (message from Jim Byrne on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:38:54 +0000) References: Message-ID: Thank you Jim Byrne! I've the will to make the weblog more accessible. For some people learning how to do that isn't as much a learning curve as for other people for whom it's a high learning curve like people with dyslexia. What's needed is a formulaic approach or some way to submit the link and get not just analysis but a completely clear explanation of a couple things to do that would improve the weblog for access that you don't have to know anything and you don't have to necessarily be great about following step by step instructions. Then there's the template that is developed by the provider. How do you persuade the weblog template provider to make things even a bit more accessible when that might not be from their point of view their priority?... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 20:31:56 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:31:56 -0500 Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling Message-ID: How would I fix the weblog http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com so that it's not necessary to scroll right and left so much?... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 20:33:26 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:33:26 -0500 Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling In-Reply-To: (message from Don Saklad on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:31:56 -0500) References: Message-ID: ...Or is eliminating sideways scrolling something the template provider or their provider could do?... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 20:38:56 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dan Geiser) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:38:56 -0500 Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling References: Message-ID: Don't use those lengthy URLs... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Saklad" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling > How would I fix the weblog > http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com > > so that it's not necessary to scroll right and left so much?... > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 20:48:10 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:48:10 -0500 Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling In-Reply-To: (dgeiser13@hotmail.com) References: Message-ID: Thank you Don Geiser! How would an entire longer URL be displayed wrapped ?... so the display doesn't extend too far beyond, let's say, a 15" screen's display for example?... for the weblog http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com Sometimes it's useful to show the entire strings in a URL. From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 21:42:30 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:42:30 -0500 Subject: Re(2): How to eliminate sideways scrolling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021213214230.20974@pop2.valley.net> on 12/13/02, Dan Geiser wrote: >From: "Don Saklad" >To: ; >Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:31 PM >Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling > > >> How would I fix the weblog >> http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com >> >> so that it's not necessary to scroll right and left so much?... Use html code to make the link (not Manila-like, but sometimes you have to do it). So, instead of typing "http://www.verylongURL" to get the link, instead insert Description of long URL The long URL won't show up on the page. Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 21:29:29 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:29:29 -0600 Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021213152718.00a67970@pop.sigecom.net> Instead of the calendar, one could put a SEARCH ENGINE link on the site with a chart of topics covered by the site, to help someone use the search engine appropriately. I have not yet done that on my site but have some links to tips at http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/09/29/searchEngineTips.html >Jim, > >As I understood your request you didn't want any calendar but would accept >one at the bottom of the pages, hence my reply about moving the macro. If >you don't want a calendar at all simply exclude the macro from your >template. You are then faced with the question, how are people going to >navigate on my site? > >Regards, > >Gary > > Website - http://www.webstir.com/ > Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com > Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ > - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ See Al http://www.ryze.com/view.php?who=Al9Mac Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 21:44:23 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:44:23 -0600 Subject: How to make the weblog more accessible In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021213153247.00a6bec0@pop.sigecom.net> After applying some of the lessons of Mark Pilgrim's tutorial on making your site accessible to people with a variety of disabilities: blind; can't use hands; older people who have trouble with color combinations; stuck with 56 k modem (weblogs often demand bandwidth greater than available to ordinary users), you can have your website evaluated by a service to see how accessible it really is, and give you a hit list of areas in need of further improvement. Here are some resources that might help with this discussion. http://askalice.ssbtechnologies.com:8080/askalice/index.html http://www.cijs.ca/cijs-web.html http://www.lib.duke.edu/reference/ada_webpg.htm http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/index.jsp http://library.uwsp.edu/aschmetz/accessible/pub_resources.htm http://www.library.uwsp.edu/aschmetz/Accessible/pub_resources_p.htm http://www.rnib.org.uk/digital/hints.htm http://www.samizdat.com/pac1.html http://www.acb.org/accessible-formats.html http://www.cio.gov/Documents/one%5Fyear%5Fcounting%5Ffcw%5Farticle%5Fjune24%2Ehtml - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ See Al http://www.ryze.com/view.php?who=Al9Mac Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ >Jim, > >As you are interested in accessible web site I suggest you visit Mark >Pilgrim's site. http://diveintoaccessibility.org/ > >Regards, > >Gary > > Website - http://www.webstir.com/ > Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com > Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ > > > If you web pages is primarily aimed at people who are blind or visually > > impaired they will thank you for providing them with a page that is simple > > to understand; and if you have headings and links that use text describing > > the pages that are linked to - many user will be able to summarise the > pages > > using their screen reading software. > > > > Read this page first: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/htmlnotes.html > > Then this page: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/deafblindaccess.html > > Then this page: http://www.mcu.org.uk/articles/whatisaw.html > > Then this accessible overview of the W3C guidelines: > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/wcag-curric/overgid.htm > > > > All the best, > > Jim From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 22:17:42 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:17:42 -0500 Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling In-Reply-To: <20021213214230.20974@pop2.valley.net> (bob.raiselis@valley.net) References: <20021213214230.20974@pop2.valley.net> Message-ID: Thank you Bob Raiselis! How would the entire long URL be wrapped so that all the strings contained in the URL are shown?... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Dec 14 03:41:45 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (G. Secondino) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:41:45 -0500 Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021213133004.01d49018@email.wcc.vccs.edu> Message-ID: Hello David, I simply use html comment and that works. I remember something long ago about the calendar macro must be in the template but my memory is fuzzy like a 20px Gaussian blur. I just find it quicker to comment out the code I don't want and it also serves as a place holder if I choose to reactivate it. Regards, Gary Website - http://www.webstir.com/ Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ > From: David Carter-Tod > Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:31:23 -0500 > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Subject: Re: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? > > At 01:21 PM 12/13/2002 -0500, G. Secondino wrote: >> As I understood your request you didn't want any calendar but would accept >> one at the bottom of the pages, hence my reply about moving the macro. If >> you don't want a calendar at all simply exclude the macro from your >> template. You are then faced with the question, how are people going to >> navigate on my site? > > If you don't have the {calendar} macro, then a calendar is automatically > inserted for you I believe. > > You can get around this by "escaping" the {calendar} macro, like this: > > > > *I think* > > David > -- > David Carter-Tod > > > Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact > Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., > Wytheville, VA 24382 > (wk) 276-223-4784 > http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Dec 14 03:48:49 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (G. Secondino) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:48:49 -0500 Subject: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021213152718.00a67970@pop.sigecom.net> Message-ID: Hi Al, I agree. In fact I use both a calendar and Google search. Each serves a purpose at times. I use searching much more than the calendar. (80/20) Regards, Gary Website - http://www.webstir.com/ Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ > From: Al Mac > Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:29:29 -0600 > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Subject: Re: Discussion Forum: get rid of calendar? > > Instead of the calendar, one could put a SEARCH ENGINE link on the site > with a chart of topics covered by the site, to help someone use the search > engine appropriately. I have not yet done that on my site but have some > links to tips at > http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/09/29/searchEngineTips.html > >> Jim, >> >> As I understood your request you didn't want any calendar but would accept >> one at the bottom of the pages, hence my reply about moving the macro. If >> you don't want a calendar at all simply exclude the macro from your >> template. You are then faced with the question, how are people going to >> navigate on my site? >> >> Regards, >> >> Gary >> >> Website - http://www.webstir.com/ >> Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com >> Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ >> > > - > Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) > Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ > See Al http://www.ryze.com/view.php?who=Al9Mac > Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ > > > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Dec 14 04:37:31 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:37:31 -0500 Subject: Re(2): How to eliminate sideways scrolling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021214043731.12469@pop2.valley.net> on 12/13/02, Don Saklad wrote: >How would the entire long URL be wrapped so that all the >strings contained in the URL are shown?... I think you would have to do something like http:\//www.abu nchofcharactersofURLandthen
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will force a break. Using the \ escape means that Manila will not try to create a link out of the address that is enclosed within the and tags. Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Dec 15 06:04:19 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:04:19 -0800 Subject: random image javascript Message-ID: Does anyone have a random image javascript that will work with Manila? I have not been successful adapting a javascript that works in normal html pages to the Manila environment. I'm having problems knowing how to reference the images in the script and how to call the script on a particular page. It would help to see how someone has accomplished this in Manila. thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Dec 15 05:10:18 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ryan Hale) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:10:18 -0500 Subject: random image javascript In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c2a3f8$439a5580$6401a8c0@w2khalery> Hi Scott - Finally - one that I can handle... Here is the script that we use on our site (http://www.levistable.com - go to any of the inner pages and see the script working on the left-side image.) Simply pick the images that you want and insert their paths into the script below. Put this into the Javascripts textbox in Prefs > Advanced. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In your Template, simply insert this code to call the script: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, you will also need to place your {javascript} macro in the top of your template. Hope that helps. Thanks, Ryan Hale 636.561.3403 ryan.hale@levistable.com http://www.seventytwo.org http://www.ryanjhale.com http://www.levistable.com -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:04 AM To: manila-newbies@userland.com Subject: random image javascript Does anyone have a random image javascript that will work with Manila? I have not been successful adapting a javascript that works in normal html pages to the Manila environment. I'm having problems knowing how to reference the images in the script and how to call the script on a particular page. It would help to see how someone has accomplished this in Manila. thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Dec 15 06:17:32 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Granneman) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:17:32 -0600 Subject: random image javascript In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039933053.3802.6.camel@homer> Upload 10 images, let's say, named "image1.jpg", "image2.jpg", ... "image10.jpg". Then insert the following line in your template: {return ("\"image" + random(1,10) + ".jpg\"")} Load your page. Reload. You should see a different image each time. Note that you may need to make the {return} macro legal. Scott On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 00:04, Scott wrote: > Does anyone have a random image javascript that will work with Manila? > > I have not been successful adapting a javascript that works in normal html pages to the Manila environment. I'm having problems knowing how to reference the images in the script and how to call the script on a particular page. > > It would help to see how someone has accomplished this in Manila. > > thanks > Scott -- R. Scott Granneman scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com Read my blog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0100530 "No one can earn a million dollars honestly." ---William Jennings Bryan From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Dec 15 10:03:50 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 05:03:50 -0500 Subject: Forum discussion Message-ID: Forum discussion templates that are wonderfully easy to use are available at http://www.quicktopic.com Here's an example [ http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$304?mode=day ] From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Dec 15 16:51:03 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 08:51:03 -0800 Subject: random image javascript In-Reply-To: <000001c2a3f8$439a5580$6401a8c0@w2khalery> References: <000001c2a3f8$439a5580$6401a8c0@w2khalery> Message-ID: Thanks Ryan, It worked beautifully. Scott >Hi Scott - > >Finally - one that I can handle... Here is the script that we use on our >site (http://www.levistable.com - go to any of the inner pages and see the >script working on the left-side image.) Simply pick the images that you >want and insert their paths into the script below. Put this into the >Javascripts textbox in Prefs > Advanced. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >In your Template, simply insert this code to call the script: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >Obviously, you will also need to place your {javascript} macro in the top of >your template. > >Hope that helps. > >Thanks, > >Ryan Hale >636.561.3403 >ryan.hale@levistable.com > >http://www.seventytwo.org >http://www.ryanjhale.com >http://www.levistable.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com >[mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of Scott >Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:04 AM >To: manila-newbies@userland.com >Subject: random image javascript > > >Does anyone have a random image javascript that will work with Manila? > >I have not been successful adapting a javascript that works in normal html >pages to the Manila environment. I'm having problems knowing how to >reference the images in the script and how to call the script on a >particular page. > >It would help to see how someone has accomplished this in Manila. > >thanks >Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Dec 16 18:11:03 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:11:03 -0800 Subject: random image script question Message-ID: The random image javaScript shared by Ryan works in Manila, but now I have another question. When the page that utilizes the random image script loads, it pre-loads all of the images in the array. This really slows down the loading of the page. Is there a way to load only the one randomly selected image from the array that is going to be displayed? Thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Dec 16 18:26:34 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Kantel?=) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:26:34 +0100 Subject: random image script question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Am Montag den, 16. Dezember 2002, um 19:11, schrieb Scott: > When the page that utilizes the random image script loads, it > pre-loads all of the images in the array. This really slows > down the loading of the page. If you don't use JavaScript but UserTalk instead, you can use my little script for this reason (it's about randomly rotating banners but it works with simple pictures as well). See (it's in German but I Thin the script is self-explanation). If you don't need a link behind the pciture you can ommit the second (glossRef) parameter. HTH (and excuse my bad (d)english) J"org (aka Der Schockwellenreiter) -- J"org Kantel joerg@kantel.de Der Schockwellenreiter Der Rollberg From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Dec 16 19:37:55 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:37:55 -0800 Subject: random image script question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good Morning, J=F6rg I removed the second (glossRef), added my image names, and then pasted the= script into my homepage template. {if (random(1, 6) =3D=3D 1) {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Idaho")} else {if (random(2, 6) =3D=3D 2) {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Nova Scotia")} else {if (random(3, 6) =3D=3D 3) {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Beaverton")} else {if (random(4, 6) =3D=3D 4) {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Safford")} else {if (random(5, 6) =3D=3D 5) {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Douglas")} else {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Military")} }}}}} Instead of displaying a single, random image, all of the images were= displayed at the same time. Before and after each image was a line of= script, like this: {if (random(1, 6) =3D=3D1) {pictureRef( the first image was displayed here )} else {if (random(2, 6) =3D=3D {pictureRef( the second image was displayed here. )} What am I doing wrong? Scott >Am Montag den, 16. Dezember 2002, um 19:11, schrieb Scott: >>When the page that utilizes the random image script loads, it pre-loads= all of the images in the array. This really slows down the loading of the p= age. > >If you don't use JavaScript but UserTalk instead, you can use my little= script for this reason (it's about randomly rotating banners but it works= with simple pictures as well). > >See = (it's in German but I Thin the script is self-explanation). > >If you don't need a link behind the pciture you can ommit the second= (glossRef) parameter. > >HTH (and excuse my bad (d)english) >J"org (aka Der Schockwellenreiter) > >-- >J"org Kantel joerg@kantel.de >Der Schockwellenreiter >Der Rollberg From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Dec 16 21:00:03 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Kantel?=) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:00:03 +0100 Subject: random image script question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <592C3416-1139-11D7-9EC5-003065AB9922@kantel.de> Am Montag den, 16. Dezember 2002, um 20:37, schrieb Scott: > I removed the second (glossRef), added my image names, and then > pasted the script into my homepage template. > > {if (random(1, 6) == 1) > {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Idaho")} > else {if (random(2, 6) == 2) > {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Nova Scotia")} > else {if (random(3, 6) == 3) > {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Beaverton")} > else {if (random(4, 6) == 4) > {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Safford")} > else {if (random(5, 6) == 5) > {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Douglas")} > else > {pictureRef("Ellsworth in Military")} > }}}}} > > Instead of displaying a single, random image, all of the images > were displayed at the same time. Before and after each image > was a line of script, like this: > > {if (random(1, 6) ==1) > {pictureRef( > the first image was displayed here > )} > > else {if (random(2, 6) == > {pictureRef( > the second image was displayed here. > )} > > What am I doing wrong? > That looks all OK for me. And I've testet it on my Manila-Site by removing the second (glossRef),too - it works. But "Ellsworth in Idaho" and the others have to be valid shortcut in Manila. That means in your list of shortcuts the name must exist and linking to something like . And pictureRef() as well as random() has to be an allowed macro. If your Manila-site is hosting by UserLand this macro is valid by default. In another case ask your system adminstrator. And there mustn't any blank lines within your macro because Manila is rendering by default every blank line to a

-tag (and than the macro is broken). There are sometimes problems with the different linefeeds in the different operating systems. Try to write the whole macro in on line (it looks awful, but it should work ;o). Again HTH J"org -- J"org Kantel joerg@kantel.de Der Schockwellenreiter Der Rollberg From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 17 01:24:50 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Campbell) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:24:50 +0900 Subject: random image script question In-Reply-To: <592C3416-1139-11D7-9EC5-003065AB9922@kantel.de> References: <592C3416-1139-11D7-9EC5-003065AB9922@kantel.de> Message-ID: Could this script be used in Radio? I am interested in doing something like this in my weblog and also on a static site I manage with Radio. David Campbell -- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 13 21:26:12 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:26:12 -0700 Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <80ED7023-0EE1-11D7-A42D-003065D606C2@mac.com> One problem is that you have links like http://www.google.com/search?as_q=dibble+&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859- 1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=boston+public+library&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_f t=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=m3&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=off if rather then posting them directly in you used the "shortcuts" editors only menu to make shortcuts for them and used them or you can make links yourself rather then letting manila take care of it like text You would not have this issue HTH Sam D On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Don Saklad wrote: > How would I fix the weblog > http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com > > so that it's not necessary to scroll right and left so much?... > > ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 17 06:18:28 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 01:18:28 -0500 Subject: How to eliminate sideways scrolling In-Reply-To: <80ED7023-0EE1-11D7-A42D-003065D606C2@mac.com> (sdevore@mac.com) References: <80ED7023-0EE1-11D7-A42D-003065D606C2@mac.com> Message-ID: Thank you Sam DeVore! How do you include all the characters of the long web link URL but so that it appears wrapped at 70 or 80 columns or so and all live and if at all possible all of it can be cut and pasted?... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 17 08:14:13 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Kantel?=) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:14:13 +0100 Subject: random image script question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8714844C-1197-11D7-BDD4-003065AB9922@kantel.de> Am Dienstag den, 17. Dezember 2002, um 02:24, schrieb David Campbell: > Could this script be used in Radio? I am interested in doing > something like this in my weblog and also on a static site I > manage with Radio. Yes it can. But it only changes the pictures randomly when you are updating your radio site. I've a similar script for random quotes in Radio here: The script looks at a file (quotes.txt) where is every quote in one line and picks randomly a line by every update. I'm planning a similar script for "random media" that shows a rondom picture with a link behind by every update. Visiting my site could be useful. ;o) HTH (and again excuse my bad (d)english) J"org (aka Der Schockwellenreiter) -- J"org Kantel joerg@kantel.de Der Schockwellenreiter Der Rollberg From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 17 08:38:38 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Campbell) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:38:38 +0900 Subject: random image script question In-Reply-To: <8714844C-1197-11D7-BDD4-003065AB9922@kantel.de> References: <8714844C-1197-11D7-BDD4-003065AB9922@kantel.de> Message-ID: Thanks for the info. I will give it a try. David >Am Dienstag den, 17. Dezember 2002, um 02:24, schrieb David Campbell: > >>Could this script be used in Radio? I am interested in doing something like this in my weblog and also on a static site I manage with Radio. > >Yes it can. But it only changes the pictures randomly when you are updating your radio site. I've a similar script for random quotes in Radio here: > >The script looks at a file (quotes.txt) where is every quote in one line and picks randomly a line by every update. > >I'm planning a similar script for "random media" that shows a rondom picture with a link behind by every update. Visiting my site could be useful. ;o) > >HTH (and again excuse my bad (d)english) >J"org (aka Der Schockwellenreiter) > >-- >J"org Kantel joerg@kantel.de >Der Schockwellenreiter >Der Rollberg -- Visit JOY's web site at . Our snail mail address is 11-69, Nishi-17 Minami-5, Obihiro, Hokkaido 080-0027. Tel. 0155-33-0198 Fax: 0155-36-7930 From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 17 18:57:30 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:57:30 -0600 Subject: My Answers In-Reply-To: <8714844C-1197-11D7-BDD4-003065AB9922@kantel.de> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021217125535.02554bd0@pop.sigecom.net> Warning - my anti-virus said this had a virus in the attachment You might not want to open it if you do not have anti-virus protection. Wait for a second opinion on this question. - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ See Al http://www.ryze.com/view.php?who=Al9Mac Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Dec 20 00:09:47 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Gino Roncaglia) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:09:47 +0100 Subject: rss entity problem Message-ID: <000001c2a7bc$1b7c33d0$2101a8c0@voyager> The IE built-in xml parser fails to accept the rss file generated by my Manila site, returning the error "'egrave' entity not defined." (the rss file is at http://roncaglia.homeip.net/merzlog/xml/rss.xml). Since I write in Italian, I need this kind of entities. Is there a way to declare them so that the rss file works properly? The xml file in ScriptingNews2 format works well (http://roncaglia.homeip.net/merzlog/xml/scriptingnews2.xml), but I would like to have also the plain rss file. Thanks Gino Roncaglia ***************************** Dr. Gino Roncaglia Universita' della Tuscia Istituto di Scienze umane http://www.merzweb.com http://roncaglia.homeip.net/MerzLog http://www.unitus.it ***************************** From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 24 17:18:36 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:18:36 -0800 Subject: accessing member info Message-ID: As managing editor, how do I access a member's editorial status, email address, password, bulletin status? Thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 24 17:21:53 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:21:53 -0800 Subject: changing membership requirement Message-ID: If I go to Prefs > Membership > Enable or Disable Membership, and answer the question "Do you want membership enable for this site?" NO, will anyone be able to post to the Discussion Group? Thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 24 19:19:27 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Lawrence Lee) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:19:27 -0800 Subject: changing membership requirement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000201c2ab81$66b87250$6401a8c0@buntzen> You need to leave this enabled to use the discussion group. Lawrence > -----Original Message----- > From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com > [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com] On Behalf Of Scott > Sent: December 24, 2002 9:22 AM > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Subject: changing membership requirement > > > If I go to Prefs > Membership > Enable or Disable Membership, > and answer the question "Do you want membership enable for > this site?" NO, will anyone be able to post to the Discussion > Group? Thanks Scott > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Dec 28 17:24:34 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:24:34 -0800 Subject: Managing Editor on two computers Message-ID: When I access my Manila site with my primary desktop computer, I am recognized as the managing editor. But when I access the site on my laptop, I am not even a member. How can I edit the site from either machine? Thanks Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Dec 28 17:29:02 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Granneman) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:29:02 -0600 Subject: Managing Editor on two computers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1041096542.21469.27.camel@homer> Are you logging in from the laptop? http://yoursite/member/login Scott On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 11:24, Scott wrote: > When I access my Manila site with my primary desktop computer, I am recognized as the managing editor. But when I access the site on my laptop, I am not even a member. > > How can I edit the site from either machine? > > Thanks > Scott -- R. Scott Granneman scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com Read my blog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0100530 "Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad." ---Diogenes the Cynic From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Dec 28 18:17:55 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:17:55 -0600 Subject: Managing Editor on two computers In-Reply-To: <1041096542.21469.27.camel@homer> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021228121356.00a86680@pop.sigecom.net> Do you have to log off one computer as you before you log on from another computer, or can it handle you being you logged on from two different computers without logging off either one? A work around would be to have TWO managing editors, one for each computer. Call them Scott L = from the laptop Scott H = from home desk top Scott O = from office desk top - Al Macintyre Al's weblog http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ See Al http://www.ryze.com/view.php?who=Al9Mac >Are you logging in from the laptop? > >http://yoursite/member/login > >Scott > >On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 11:24, Scott wrote: > > When I access my Manila site with my primary desktop computer, I am > recognized as the managing editor. But when I access the site on my > laptop, I am not even a member. > > > > How can I edit the site from either machine? > > > > Thanks > > Scott >-- >R. Scott Granneman >scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com >Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com >Read my blog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0100530 > >"Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad." > ---Diogenes the Cynic From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Dec 28 23:07:23 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Granneman) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:07:23 -0600 Subject: Managing Editor on two computers In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021228121356.00a86680@pop.sigecom.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021228121356.00a86680@pop.sigecom.net> Message-ID: <1041116844.6633.0.camel@dante> You do NOT need to log off of one in order to log on from another. Scott On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 12:17, Al Mac wrote: > Do you have to log off one computer as you before you log on from another > computer, or can it handle you being you logged on from two different > computers without logging off either one? > > A work around would be to have TWO managing editors, one for each > computer. Call them > Scott L = from the laptop > Scott H = from home desk top > Scott O = from office desk top > > - > Al Macintyre > Al's weblog http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ > See Al http://www.ryze.com/view.php?who=Al9Mac > > >Are you logging in from the laptop? > > > >http://yoursite/member/login > > > >Scott > > > >On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 11:24, Scott wrote: > > > When I access my Manila site with my primary desktop computer, I am > > recognized as the managing editor. But when I access the site on my > > laptop, I am not even a member. > > > > > > How can I edit the site from either machine? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Scott > >-- > >R. Scott Granneman > >scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com > >Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com > >Read my blog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0100530 > > > >"Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad." > > ---Diogenes the Cynic > > > > > -- R. Scott Granneman scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com "Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without any proof." ---Ashley Montague From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Dec 24 17:17:55 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Klausjuergen Heinrich) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:17:55 +0100 Subject: accessing member info Message-ID: Da die Donau-Universit=E4t Krems bis inkl. 6. J=E4nner 2003 geschlossen = ist, kann ich Ihr/Dein Mail erst am 7. J=E4nner lesen. Inzwischen alle guten W=FCnsche f=FCr Weihnachten + Jahreswechsel Ihr/Dein Klausj=FCrgen Heinrich