From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 1 20:33:12 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ryan Hale) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:33:12 -0400 Subject: Create a Top-Level Site Message-ID: <000a01c22136$247456f0$1b9896cf@w2khalery> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C22114.9C915D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone - I am able to create sub-sites, but when I try to create top-level sites, = I simply get a "Page Not Found". I know that it registers the name of = the new site in Frontier because if I try to enter the same site name = again, it tells me that the name already exists. =20 Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks, Ryan Hale ryan.hale@levistable.com 636.561.3403 http://www.levistable.com http://www.searchparty2002.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C22114.9C915D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone -
 
I am able to create sub-sites, but when = I try to=20 create top-level sites, I simply get a "Page Not = Found".  I=20 know that it registers the name of the new site in Frontier because if I = try to=20 enter the same site name again, it tells me that the name already = exists. =20
 
Can anyone shed some light on = this?
 
Thanks,
 
 
Ryan Hale
ryan.hale@levistable.com
= 636.561.3403
 
http://www.levistable.com
http://www.searchparty2002.com
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C22114.9C915D30-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 3 01:50:38 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ben Legume) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:50:38 -0700 Subject: Problem with my weblogs.com site. Message-ID: <064FEC89407B4DA4DA8675BE7AC0F351@macsbooks.today.com.au> I have a problem with my weblogs.com manila site. I am hoping someone can give me some helpful advice. My 'blog was working fine up until about 2 months ago. Due to my computer being stolen then, I was unable to access it until now. However it doesn't give me access to the 'edit' bar etc. It was doing something strange before however. Occasionally the computer would 'forget' I was a member and apparently lose the cookie or whatever it was which gave me access to the edit functions. The only way I found to re-activate my editing ability was to manually enter the URL of the page for editing the page (any page). I think it was something like blogname.com/users/$edit123. Unfortunately I had it written on my old computer only. Logging in via the weblogs.com, userland etc. webpage didn't seem to make any difference to my access to the blog edit functions. Could someone either a) tell me what to do and/or b) advise me what the correct URL is for editing a weblogs page. Thanks --- Send the right message --- + Today freemail + Get your free, private email address at http://www.today.com.au From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 2 11:47:43 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Hugh Nicoll) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 19:47:43 +0900 Subject: installing the survey's plug-in In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020528084745.029fc5f8@email.wc.cc.va.us> Message-ID: Greetings all, I find the docs on installing the survey's plug-in a bit confusing. The web page docs say "Open surveys.root" I'm assuming this is from the server menu, though I can't find the surveys.root in the list. I have quit and restarted, but can't seem to get to step one. Frontier 8.0.5 on Mac OS 10.1.4 Any tips? Thanks in advance. Hugh -- Hugh Nicoll, Miyazaki Municipal University Funatsuka 1-1-2, Miyazaki-shi 880-8520 JAPAN Tel 0985-20-4788, Fax 0985-20-4877 JALT2002, 22-24 November, Shizuoka: Waves of the Future http://jalt.org/jalt2002/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 2 14:01:16 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ken Dow) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:01:16 -0400 Subject: installing the survey's plug-in In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The web page docs say "Open surveys.root" I'm assuming this is from the > server menu, though I can't find the surveys.root in the list. Put Surveys.root into Guest Databases > Apps and then use File > Open in Frontier to open it. HTH. -- Regards Ken Learn Manila and Radio in Toronto starting July 15th http://www.kendow.com/courses.html The mind is a fire to be kindled not a vessel to be filled. - Plutarch From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 2 20:17:46 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:17:46 -0500 Subject: Classroom Use Message-ID: <63E2F416-8DF0-11D6-B339-000393B13292@mac.com> --Apple-Mail-1-85625915 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for teachers to create and maintain classroom webpages. Is there anyone out there with insight to this. I am diffently wanting the browser editing portion but was wondering if it was possible to change The "Discussion" section to Homework assignments or teacher announcements. Any help is appreciated. David --Apple-Mail-1-85625915 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Times New RomanI am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for teachers to create and maintain classroom webpages. Is there anyone out there with insight to this. I am diffently wanting the browser editing portion but was wondering if it was possible to change The "Discussion" section to Homework assignments or teacher announcements. Any help is appreciated. David --Apple-Mail-1-85625915-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 2 20:22:38 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (McComas, Karen) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 15:22:38 -0400 Subject: Classroom Use Message-ID: <973A8A3969EF064B8C462506CBA8D459018E0905@muxc02.marshall.edu> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --Boundary_(ID_4u7K4ZQm/kL+7ABbveEOaw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi! I'm using manila this summer for a class ( http://www.muwp.org/15/ ). As you can see I've made some adjustments on the discussion links to fit my needs. I'm also getting ready to do some work with young writer's camps ( http://www.muwp.org/muwp10/ ) but this is still under development. The discussion links here have been modified to serve as places to post writing and to respond to writing. Those might give you some ideas about tweaks that might fit your needs. -----Original Message----- From: davidwallace@mac.com [mailto:davidwallace@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:18 PM To: manila-newbies@userland.com Subject: Classroom Use I am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for teachers to create and maintain classroom webpages. Is there anyone out there with insight to this. I am diffently wanting the browser editing portion but was wondering if it was possible to change The "Discussion" section to Homework assignments or teacher announcements. Any help is appreciated. David --Boundary_(ID_4u7K4ZQm/kL+7ABbveEOaw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi!
 
I'm using manila this summer for a class (http://www.muwp.org/15/).  As you can see I've made some adjustments on the discussion links to fit my needs.  I'm also getting ready to do some work with young writer's camps (http://www.muwp.org/muwp10/) but this is still under development.  The discussion links here have been modified to serve as places to post writing and to respond to writing.  Those might give you some ideas about tweaks that might fit your needs.
-----Original Message-----
From: davidwallace@mac.com [mailto:davidwallace@mac.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:18 PM
To: manila-newbies@userland.com
Subject: Classroom Use

I am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for teachers to create and maintain classroom webpages. Is there anyone out there with insight to this. I am diffently wanting the browser editing portion but was wondering if it was possible to change The "Discussion" section to Homework assignments or teacher announcements. Any help is appreciated.


David

--Boundary_(ID_4u7K4ZQm/kL+7ABbveEOaw)-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 2 21:35:03 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 15:35:03 -0500 Subject: Classroom Use In-Reply-To: <63E2F416-8DF0-11D6-B339-000393B13292@mac.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020702153255.00a07800@pop.sigecom.net> --=====================_79515380==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed My sister is a school teacher. She is not using Manila, but perhaps you might find what she has on her web site to be inspiring. http://homelink.cps-k12.org/teachers/canteys/ >I am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for teachers >to create and maintain classroom webpages. Is there anyone out there with >insight to this. I am diffently wanting the browser editing portion but >was wondering if it was possible to change The "Discussion" section to >Homework assignments or teacher announcements. Any help is appreciated. > >David - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) --=====================_79515380==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" My sister is a school teacher.  She is not using Manila, but perhaps you might find what she has on her web site to be inspiring. http://homelink.cps-k12.org/teachers/canteys/

I am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for teachers to create and maintain classroom webpages.  Is there anyone out there with insight to this.  I am diffently wanting the browser editing portion but was wondering if it was possible to change The "Discussion" section to Homework assignments or teacher announcements.  Any help is appreciated.

David

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Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) --=====================_79515380==_.ALT-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 2 22:28:23 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 14:28:23 -0700 Subject: Classroom Use In-Reply-To: <63E2F416-8DF0-11D6-B339-000393B13292@mac.com> Message-ID: On 7/2/02 12:17 PM, "davidwallace@mac.com" wrote: > I am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for > teachers to create and maintain classroom webpages. Is there anyone out > there with insight to this. I am diffently wanting the browser editing > portion but was wondering if it was possible to change The "Discussion" > section to Homework assignments or teacher announcements. Any help is > appreciated. > > David > David, There are a lot of teachers using manila in this way, I have a plug in that make the assignments and long term deadlines easier for teachers to manage and lets them use the discussion portion of the site for student/ parent/ teacher discussion. If you have any questions please let me know, you might also want to check out http://www.schoolblogs.com and http://www.schoolblogs.com/newbies For a school with sites for every teacher you can see http://sd.cfsd.k12.az.us/ecms/ And for a directory of schools and school info see http://www.teachesme.com/directory/16 Sam D ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 5 15:14:45 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Kemp) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 15:14:45 +0100 Subject: Home page calendar problem Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020705150248.00aa10e0@pop-hub.strath.ac.uk> Hello all, I have a Manila site whose home page is not working correctly. When I try to access it, using a range of web browsers, I get the error message "Sorry! There was an error: Can't get the first day in the calendar because adrcalendar doesn't point to a valid non-empty calendar structure." I get the same error message when I try to log on to the site. I have several other Manila websites, and these are all functioning correctly. The site in question has been the subject of benign neglect for the last month or so and has previously functioned correctly. Version of Frontier is 8.05, OS is NT. I've had a search on Userland's site and can't find anything that relates to the current Frontier/Manila configuration. Can anyone suggest a cure? Thanks, Bob Kemp From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 7 20:29:02 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Wallace) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Calander Message-ID: <5834723.1026070142179.JavaMail.davidwallace@mac.com> How can I tweak the calander so that it look and works as just that. As you an see on my test page it gets really distorted as soon as any events are added. http://MrWallace.teachesme.com/calendar I understand what is happening with the table and cell. I think a calender with all dates linked to a list of events for that day s what I am wanting. How do I do it??? David Wallace Director of Instructional Technology Model Development Webb City Public Schools Webb City, Missouri dwallace@mail.wccards.k12.mo.us From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 7 23:28:11 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ryan Hale) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:28:11 -0400 Subject: Template Weirdness Message-ID: <000e01c22605$947d8060$229896cf@w2khalery> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C225E4.0C8B4460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone - I am having a hard time with the template in my Manila site and I am = wondering if any of you have an idea about how to fix this. I created = an HTML template which shows up correctly when I am looking at some of = the administrative pages such as Prefs or Pictures, etc. I have = uploaded a picture of the correct-looking screen here... http://www.levistable.com/images/correct.jpg However, when I am viewing one of my Stories or the Stories index, I get = a separation in one of the tables at the top of the screen. See this = link... http://www.levistable.com/images/wrong.jpg This same template works great and looks correct when I just look at it = as an HTML file written in Notepad and viewed in a browser. Do any of = you have any ideas on why this is happening when served through Manila? Thanks, Ryan Hale ryan.hale@levistable.com 636.561.3403 http://www.levistable.com http://www.searchparty2002.com ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C225E4.0C8B4460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello everyone -
 
I am having a hard time with the = template in my=20 Manila site and I am wondering if any of you have an idea about how to = fix=20 this.  I created an HTML template which shows up correctly when I = am=20 looking at some of the administrative pages such as Prefs or Pictures,=20 etc.  I have uploaded a picture of the correct-looking screen=20 here...
 
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However, when I am viewing one of my = Stories or the=20 Stories index, I get a separation in one of the tables at the top of the = screen.  See this link...
 
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This same template works great and = looks=20 correct when I just look at it as an HTML file written in Notepad = and=20 viewed in a browser.  Do any of you have any ideas on why this is = happening=20 when served through Manila?
 
Thanks,
 
 
Ryan Hale
ryan.hale@levistable.com
= 636.561.3403
 
http://www.levistable.com
http://www.searchparty2002.com
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Message-ID: I use the Radio outliner to write my Manila blog. Lately when I save, it usually unfailingly times out (I assume that's what happens) and gives me an error message that says "Can't read stream because the TCP connection was closed unexpectedly." Every change you see on my blog right now is the result of about about 10 attempted saves. Very frustrating. Maybe this will help the diagnosis... Right now the Status Message in my About Radio Userland window is saying "Radio UserLand 8.0.3: 20.0MB free, 12:02:08AM; 3 threads; 8 hits." Now I'll try to save a change: making the new date/title "Monday, July 8, 2002." Okay, now I'll try to save that change. The Status Message says "Saving 'The Doc Searls Weblog: Monday, July 8, 2002'..." After about 30 seconds I get the "Can't read stream..." error message. I say Okay to the message and the outline is still titled Sunday, July 7, 2002. I repeat the same effort several more times... it finally works. I have the feeling the problem is at this end, but have no idea how to solve it. Any help is welcome. Thanks! Doc -- ______________________ doc@searls.com http://doc.weblogs.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 8 09:02:29 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dean Landsman) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 04:02:29 -0400 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sounds like you are describing what occurs in machines when the settings (for reasons beyond the likes of me) go kerflooey. The system somehow confuses dial-up connections with broadband. We've had the same issue, in other programs, where one machine is constantly reporting that the IP connection has timed out and is seeking a new network connection. Which is kind of odd, given that we use DSL lines for all the PCs on the network. HTH. --Dean -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of Doc Searls Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:07 AM To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." I use the Radio outliner to write my Manila blog. Lately when I save, it usually unfailingly times out (I assume that's what happens) and gives me an error message that says "Can't read stream because the TCP connection was closed unexpectedly." Every change you see on my blog right now is the result of about about 10 attempted saves. Very frustrating. Maybe this will help the diagnosis... Right now the Status Message in my About Radio Userland window is saying "Radio UserLand 8.0.3: 20.0MB free, 12:02:08AM; 3 threads; 8 hits." Now I'll try to save a change: making the new date/title "Monday, July 8, 2002." Okay, now I'll try to save that change. The Status Message says "Saving 'The Doc Searls Weblog: Monday, July 8, 2002'..." After about 30 seconds I get the "Can't read stream..." error message. I say Okay to the message and the outline is still titled Sunday, July 7, 2002. I repeat the same effort several more times... it finally works. I have the feeling the problem is at this end, but have no idea how to solve it. Any help is welcome. Thanks! Doc -- ______________________ doc@searls.com http://doc.weblogs.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 8 15:35:16 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dave Winer) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 07:35:16 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." References: Message-ID: <01cf01c2268c$aeecb2e0$33a1dc40@murphy> To anyone who might have advice on this -- some more data. 1. I post to my Manila site in the same way Doc does, using Radio's outliner. 2. My Manila site is on the same server as Doc's. 3. I sometimes get an error, but nothing like what Doc sees. Maybe 1 error in 100 saves. Dave From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 8 21:04:36 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:04:36 -0400 Subject: Win2000 - 404 error for control panel after Frontier setup Message-ID: Hello all: I have been having trouble with my Frontier setup. I have also posted this to the Frontier message board but since I'm sure it's a newbie question I thought I would give this list a try. The server I have been trying to install Frontier on has its FTP access shut off. I have tried the Frontier setup application with two different IP addresses and once using the default website (localhost + port#) and each time the control panel page tries to render I eventually get a 404 error. Any ideas on what I've been doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Mary From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 8 21:45:28 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:45:28 -0500 Subject: Calendar Message-ID: <3368EA7C4178D411B18800508B5FDBE9023FB871@exchlnk.iuniverse.com> David, How is it that you are creating the calendar pages. It doesn't appear to be a standard feature of Manila. Is it a plug-in or home-grown solution? I ask for two reasons: 1) I would like to implement a similar feature; 2) It could affect the answer to your question. Also, is your question "how to adjust the appearance of the calendar to avoid the cell width distortion" or "how to adjust the functionality so that each date does not have content but is merely a link to a list of events for that day?" If the former, then the answer is to force the width of each column. If the latter, then it depends upon on how you are creating the pages to begin with. Jeremy -- Jeremy J. Tredway Web Producer iUniverse jeremy.tredway@iuniverse.com -----Original Message----- Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:29:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wallace To: manila-newbies@userland.com Subject: Calander Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com How can I tweak the calander so that it look and works as just that. As you an see on my test page it gets really distorted as soon as any events are added. http://MrWallace.teachesme.com/calendar I understand what is happening with the table and cell. I think a calender with all dates linked to a list of events for that day s what I am wanting. How do I do it??? David Wallace Director of Instructional Technology Model Development Webb City Public Schools Webb City, Missouri dwallace@mail.wccards.k12.mo.us From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 8 22:03:44 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 14:03:44 -0700 Subject: Calendar In-Reply-To: <3368EA7C4178D411B18800508B5FDBE9023FB871@exchlnk.iuniverse.com> Message-ID: On 7/8/02 1:45 PM, "Jeremy.Tredway@iuniverse.com" wrote: > > How is it that you are creating the calendar pages. It doesn't appear to be > a standard feature of Manila. Is it a plug-in or home-grown solution? I ask > for two reasons: 1) I would like to implement a similar feature; 2) It could > affect the answer to your question. > Well, I better just jump in here. The calendar is part of my plug in for schools, and it is intended for the display of long term deadlines like test or papers or other classroom events. David's desired use (discussed offline) is to use it for more general events. This will evolve into a new set of functionality for the plugin I think Sam D > Also, is your question "how to adjust the appearance of the calendar to > avoid the cell width distortion" or "how to adjust the functionality so that > each date does not have content but is merely a link to a list of events for > that day?" > > If the former, then the answer is to force the width of each column. If the > latter, then it depends upon on how you are creating the pages to begin > with. > ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 8 23:32:41 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dean Landsman) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:32:41 -0400 Subject: Reposting Message that never showed up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This message went out a moment after my reply to Doc Searls' message...but it never showed up in my inbox. In the event that it got lost in the ether, here it is again. If it is a repeat, I apologize in advance. And btw, my blog, which will clearly show you the problem is http://deanland.weblogs.com --dfl Do I have to type a thousand words in my blog, now that the Pictures facility is apparently not working? I added a picture: "Cool Pneumonia Picture" which seems to be working just fine until I add it to the blog. Here is where it is: Here's what happens --on the published page--> [Macro error: Can't include picture "Cool Pneumonia Picture" because Can't include picture "Cool Pneumonia Picture" because it doesn't exist in the list of shortcuts for this site.] Yet when I go to Pictures, there it is. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks in advance. --Dean Landsman From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 8 23:57:28 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Lawrence Lee) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:57:28 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c226d2$d5a58f60$ba71ad8e@buntzen> Hi Doc, When you notice this problem, can you view your Manila site in your browser? Lawrence > -----Original Message----- > From: Doc Searls > Sent: July 8, 2002 12:07 AM > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." > > > I use the Radio outliner to write my Manila blog. Lately when I save, > it usually unfailingly times out (I assume that's what happens) and > gives me an error message that says "Can't read stream because the > TCP connection was closed unexpectedly." Every change you see on my > blog right now is the result of about about 10 attempted saves. Very > frustrating. > > Maybe this will help the diagnosis... > > Right now the Status Message in my About Radio Userland window is > saying "Radio UserLand 8.0.3: 20.0MB free, 12:02:08AM; 3 threads; 8 > hits." Now I'll try to save a change: making the new date/title > "Monday, July 8, 2002." Okay, now I'll try to save that change. The > Status Message says "Saving 'The Doc Searls Weblog: Monday, July 8, > 2002'..." After about 30 seconds I get the "Can't read stream..." > error message. I say Okay to the message and the outline is still > titled Sunday, July 7, 2002. I repeat the same effort several more > times... it finally works. > > I have the feeling the problem is at this end, but have no idea how > to solve it. Any help is welcome. > > Thanks! > > Doc From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 00:11:31 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:11:31 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <000801c226d2$d5a58f60$ba71ad8e@buntzen> References: <000801c226d2$d5a58f60$ba71ad8e@buntzen> Message-ID: At 3:57 PM -0700 7/8/02, Lawrence Lee wrote: >Hi Doc, > >When you notice this problem, can you view your Manila site in your >browser? Yes, with my Editors Only view. -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 00:17:16 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:17:16 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/8/02 12:07 AM, "Doc Searls" wrote: > I use the Radio outliner to write my Manila blog. Lately when I save, > it usually unfailingly times out (I assume that's what happens) and > gives me an error message that says "Can't read stream because the > TCP connection was closed unexpectedly." Every change you see on my > blog right now is the result of about about 10 attempted saves. Very > frustrating. > Sounds like the same bug in the networking that bites me when trying to upstream to a rcs host running windows. Let me guess Doc, running os x? Did you change anything about your network recently? Sam D ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 08:35:48 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:35:48 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 4:17 PM -0700 7/8/02, Sam DeVore wrote: >Sounds like the same bug in the networking that bites me when trying to >upstream to a rcs host running windows. Let me guess Doc, running os x? >Did you change anything about your network recently? Hm. Well, it's DHCP from the laptop through the hub to the router or through the wi-fi to the router (which is also a wi-fi base station). I just reset the router and the cable modem. It's midnight. I just flipped the home page. That worked. Went to Edit with Radio and got a browser page with the usual message. Tried again and got the outline window this time. Went to save the outline and ... it worked. Let's try to update the title to Tuesday. Nope, got the usual message. I'll try again. Failed again. Lost count of how many times. Maybe 8. Can't get it to take. Shit. When I test the connection speed here I get about 3MB down and just 2KB up. That looks like that might be the problem. Okay, I just spent 20 minutes on the phone with Cox. They tested the modem from their end and said everything was fine. Then they re-provisioned it. Then I conducted a ping test to some URL and got 30 responses ranging from 94 to 111 ms. Not sure what to make of that. The Cox guy thought it was okay. Just re-tested at DSL Reports. Same result. Just tested with another laptop, bypassing the router. Same result, pretty much 2.9Mb down and 6Kb up. Reset the router and the modem. Same results. Fuck. I'm going to bed. Gotta get up in 4 hours anyway. Whatever, the problem is rather clearly here. Doc -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 13:53:48 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (kris krois) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:53:48 +0200 Subject: delete multiple news items/DG messages Message-ID: I am managing editor of a weblog at schoolblogs.com Setting up our blog i created a lot of news items and DG messages for test reasons. Now i want to delete all of them. Is there a more confortable way to do that, than entering the message number one after another on the admin site? Thanx for help, k r i s -- \ kris krois / \ works http://www.phlux.org/kkworks / jokes http://www.phlux.org \ folks http://www.netbase.it / \ phon +39-0464-548181 / cell +49-(0)174-7463739 \ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 15:10:24 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (kris krois) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:10:24 +0200 Subject: invite multiple members Message-ID: Is there a way to invite a list of people to become Editors without entering each member one by one? i am managing editor of a weblog at www.schoolblogs.com (no direct access to the server) thanks, k r i s -- \ kris krois / \ works http://www.phlux.org/kkworks / jokes http://www.phlux.org \ folks http://www.netbase.it / \ phon +39-0464-548181 / cell +49-(0)174-7463739 \ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 15:21:43 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David A. Bayly) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:21:43 +0100 Subject: invite multiple members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If there were, it would be a fine spam production machine, simply by adding members in bulk with bulletins on then sending them emails about unwanted rubbish such as growing bigger body parts in 30 days. So I'm rather glad there isn't a way. At 16:10 +0200 02/07/09, kris krois wrote: >Is there a way to invite a list of people to become Editors without >entering each member one by one? > >i am managing editor of a weblog at www.schoolblogs.com (no direct >access to the server) > >thanks, >k r i s > >-- >\ kris krois >/ >\ works http://www.phlux.org/kkworks >/ jokes http://www.phlux.org >\ folks http://www.netbase.it >/ >\ phon +39-0464-548181 >/ cell +49-(0)174-7463739 >\ -- - David Bayly. Programmer and digest reader. dbayly at udena dot ch Digest Readers do it once a day. From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 2 21:46:04 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Jack Foster Mancilla) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:46:04 -0700 Subject: Classroom Use In-Reply-To: <63E2F416-8DF0-11D6-B339-000393B13292@mac.com> References: <63E2F416-8DF0-11D6-B339-000393B13292@mac.com> Message-ID: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* --============_-1186479724==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" . I set up a manila server for the Danish School of Journalism. We used the manila sites as sites in themselves. We used them as departmental Sub-sites of the Danish School of Journalism's main site. We had our teachers setting up courses of study on them. We used them as web magazine sites. We used them as any and everything we could think of. ... When you actually make the step into a Manila server for a school, you have made one of the best steps of your instructional career. Jack >I am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for >teachers to create and maintain classroom webpages. Is there anyone >out there with insight to this. I am diffently wanting the browser >editing portion but was wondering if it was possible to change The >"Discussion" section to Homework assignments or teacher >announcements. Any help is appreciated. > >David --============_-1186479724==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Classroom Use
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I set up a manila server for the Danish School of Journalism. We used the manila sites as sites in themselves. We used them as departmental Sub-sites of the Danish School of Journalism's main site. We had our teachers setting up courses of study on them. We used them as web magazine sites. We used them as any and everything we could think of. ... When you actually make the step into a Manila server for a school, you have made one of the best steps of your instructional career.

Jack

I am thinking about using Manila in our classroom environment for teachers to create and maintain classroom webpages.  Is there anyone out there with insight to this.  I am diffently wanting the browser editing portion but was wondering if it was possible to change The "Discussion" section to Homework assignments or teacher announcements.  Any help is appreciated.

David

--============_-1186479724==_ma============-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 8 09:08:55 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dean Landsman) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 04:08:55 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Do I have to type a thousand words in my blog, now that the Pictures facility is apparently not working? I added a picture: "Cool Pneumonia Picture" which seems to be working just fine until I add it to the blog. Here is where it is: Here's what happens --on the published page--> [Macro error: Can't include picture "Cool Pneumonia Picture" because Can't include picture "Cool Pneumonia Picture" because it doesn't exist in the list of shortcuts for this site.] Yet when I go to Pictures, there it is. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks in advance. --Dean Landsman From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 18:15:40 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:15:40 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020709171540.2360@pop2.valley.net> on 7/8/02, Dean Landsman wrote: >Here's what happens --on the published page--> [Macro error: Can't include >picture "Cool Pneumonia Picture" because Can't include picture "Cool >Pneumonia Picture" because it doesn't exist in the list of shortcuts for >this site.] Check the Shortcuts page in the Editor's menu - sometimes the shortcut you think is assigned is not the shortcut you need to use... Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 18:17:04 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:17:04 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020709131626.01c77ac8@email.wc.cc.va.us> At 04:08 AM 7/8/2002 -0400, Dean Landsman wrote: > From the bottom of that page: >To include this picture in a page, type "Psychedelia? No! Pneumonia!", including the quotes. David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 18:25:20 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 10:25:20 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/9/02 12:35 AM, "Doc Searls" wrote: > At 4:17 PM -0700 7/8/02, Sam DeVore wrote: >> Sounds like the same bug in the networking that bites me when trying to >> upstream to a rcs host running windows. Let me guess Doc, running os x? >> Did you change anything about your network recently? > Doc on the ping test what kind of failure rate are you getting? Network utility will report this when done. Andre, Doug and I did a bunch of testing with this (I suffer from the same problem) and it seemed to come down to the fact that os x connecting to a windows machine do not handle failed packets right. The problem doesn't seem to happen when os x connects to os x or os x to os 9. There is some issue with the connection to windows, I am beginning to wonder if it related to the the recent revelations about windows not running at full duplex when talking to os x that I have been reading about. Sam D ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 18:48:13 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:48:13 -0400 Subject: Win2000 - 404 error for control panel after Frontier setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020709134301.01c80bc0@email.wc.cc.va.us> At 04:04 PM 7/8/2002 -0400, Mary_Mahling@es.blm.gov wrote: >Hello all: I have been having trouble with my Frontier setup. I have also >posted this to the Frontier message board but since I'm sure it's a newbie >question I thought I would give this list a try. The server I have been >trying to install Frontier on has its FTP access shut off. I have tried the >Frontier setup application with two different IP addresses and once using >the default website (localhost + port#) and each time the control panel >page tries to render I eventually get a 404 error. Any ideas on what I've >been doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Mary what about 127.0.0.1? Are you on a Mac? What port is Frontier trying to run on? Here's a pretty techy description of what might be going on: http://frontier-osx.userland.com/stories/storyReader$445 Here's the conversation about it: http://frontier-osx.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$445 Here's more: http://frontier.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$9991?mode=topic David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 18:59:19 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:59:19 -0400 Subject: Win2000 - 404 error for control panel after Frontier setup In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020709134301.01c80bc0@email.wc.cc.va.us> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020709135801.01c87948@email.wc.cc.va.us> Sorry, should have replied elsewhere. The core answer is probably to find out what your ip is and then use that. The frontier script for that is tcp.mydottedid() David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 21:06:14 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:06:14 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 10:25 AM -0700 7/9/02, Sam DeVore wrote: >On 7/9/02 12:35 AM, "Doc Searls" wrote: > >> At 4:17 PM -0700 7/8/02, Sam DeVore wrote: >>> Sounds like the same bug in the networking that bites me when trying to >>> upstream to a rcs host running windows. Let me guess Doc, running os x? >>> Did you change anything about your network recently? >> > >Doc on the ping test what kind of failure rate are you getting? > >Network utility will report this when done. Andre, Doug and I did a bunch of >testing with this (I suffer from the same problem) and it seemed to come >down to the fact that os x connecting to a windows machine do not handle >failed packets right. The problem doesn't seem to happen when os x connects >to os x or os x to os 9. There is some issue with the connection to >windows, I am beginning to wonder if it related to the the recent >revelations about windows not running at full duplex when talking to os x >that I have been reading about. Here's the whole dialog in Network Utility: PING 64.58.76.227 (64.58.76.227): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=0 ttl=237 time=95.621 ms ?Q£ø64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=1 ttl=237 time=94.274 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=2 ttl=237 time=93.371 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=3 ttl=237 time=94.923 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=4 ttl=237 time=94.207 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=5 ttl=237 time=96.301 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=6 ttl=237 time=97.55 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=7 ttl=237 time=94.108 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=8 ttl=237 time=94.36 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=9 ttl=237 time=94.756 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=10 ttl=237 time=93.97 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=11 ttl=237 time=93.647 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=12 ttl=237 time=94.878 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=13 ttl=237 time=94.985 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=14 ttl=237 time=93.788 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=15 ttl=237 time=97.868 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=16 ttl=237 time=94.443 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=17 ttl=237 time=93.467 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=18 ttl=237 time=95.008 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=19 ttl=237 time=94.296 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=20 ttl=237 time=96.422 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=21 ttl=237 time=95.012 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=22 ttl=237 time=93.575 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=23 ttl=237 time=94.973 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=24 ttl=237 time=107.706 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=25 ttl=237 time=94.375 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=26 ttl=237 time=93.223 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=27 ttl=237 time=111.273 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=28 ttl=237 time=110.23 ms 64 bytes from 64.58.76.227: icmp_seq=29 ttl=237 time=111.322 ms --- 64.58.76.227 ping statistics --- 30 packets transmitted, 30 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 93.223/96.797/111.322 ms The IP address is Yahoo's, fwiw. BSD. The problem is slow upstream speed. I'm getting between 2 and 44Kb, even though the downstream side is around 3Mb. Mostly it's around 2. Attempts to FTP upstream just sit there. The blog routine fails. About 1 in 5 upstream SMTP semail attempts fail, though POP3 calls go through fine. Taking out hubs and routers make no difference. I've tested it with Windows (via VPC), OS 9 and OS X on different machines, both on the router and directly to the cable modem, on a variety of cables. Same thing every time. They're sending a guy out between 12 and 2pm tomorrow, since I finally convinced them there's something fucky on the Ethernet side of the cable modem. On the cable side it tests at 300kb upstream and 3.xMb downstream. On the ethernet side, it's fine downsteam and terrible up. Very frustrating. ds -- ______________________ doc@searls.com http://doc.weblogs.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 10 03:12:29 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Michael Fraase) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:12:29 -0500 Subject: Search engine problems revisited Message-ID: <000001c227b7$3e5d3730$79732ad0@further> I'm having problems with the Frontier/Manila search engine again. I've used esotericSettings plugin in the past to force the index to be generated for individual sites, but it's all of a sudden reporting a "can't compile this script because of a syntax error." Can someone please tell me how to force an index to be generated for a specific site? I'm running Frontier 8.05 on Windows 2000 Advanced Server if it matters. Kindly, cc me directly in your reply; I'm on the digest.\ Thanks. -- Michael Fraase, partner ARTS & FARCES LLC mfraase@farces.com www.farces.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 9 20:47:26 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Phil Wolff) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020709194726.43996.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> This might be related. When subscribing to an RSS feed, I often get this error message. Can't subscribe to the channel. The most likely cure is to check the URL in a web browser and see if you can get it to read the feed. The following message probably won't help you figure out what went wrong, but we include it here because it might. "Semaphore timer expired after 3600 sixtieths of a second." This despite being able to pull the rss feed up in IE using my DSL connection. - phil --- Doc Searls wrote: > At 4:17 PM -0700 7/8/02, Sam DeVore wrote: > >Sounds like the same bug in the networking that > bites me when trying to > >upstream to a rcs host running windows. Let me > guess Doc, running os x? > >Did you change anything about your network > recently? > > Hm. Well, it's DHCP from the laptop through the hub > to the router or > through the wi-fi to the router (which is also a > wi-fi base station). > > I just reset the router and the cable modem. > > It's midnight. I just flipped the home page. That > worked. Went to > Edit with Radio and got a browser page with the > usual message. Tried > again and got the outline window this time. Went to > save the outline > and ... it worked. Let's try to update the title to > Tuesday. Nope, > got the usual message. I'll try again. Failed again. > > Lost count of how many times. Maybe 8. Can't get it > to take. Shit. > > When I test the connection speed here > I get about 3MB > down and just 2KB > up. That looks like that might be the problem. > > Okay, I just spent 20 minutes on the phone with Cox. > They tested the > modem from their end and said everything was fine. > Then they > re-provisioned it. Then I conducted a ping test to > some URL and got > 30 responses ranging from 94 to 111 ms. Not sure > what to make of > that. The Cox guy thought it was okay. > > Just re-tested at DSL Reports. Same result. > > Just tested with another laptop, bypassing the > router. Same result, > pretty much 2.9Mb down and 6Kb up. > > Reset the router and the modem. Same results. Fuck. > > I'm going to bed. Gotta get up in 4 hours anyway. > > Whatever, the problem is rather clearly here. > > Doc > -- > > =========================================== > Doc Searls http://www.searls.com > doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com ===== Philip Wolff evanwolf group http://dijest.com/ http://dijest.com/aka/ a klog apart US 1-510-444-8234 pwolff@dijest.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 10 04:35:52 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dean Landsman) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:35:52 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020709131626.01c77ac8@email.wc.cc.va.us> Message-ID: Yes, in the original composition, I typed "Psychedelia? No! Pneumonia!" and then the error message appeared. Problem still exists. Any other thoughts? --Dean -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of David Carter-Tod Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:17 PM To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Subject: Re: Problem with Pictures At 04:08 AM 7/8/2002 -0400, Dean Landsman wrote: > From the bottom of that page: >To include this picture in a page, type , including the quotes. David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 10 06:18:23 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dean Landsman) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:18:23 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: <20020709171540.2360@pop2.valley.net> Message-ID: Bob, Didn't use the shortcut -- what I did was create the picture, and use the name of the created picture inside of quote marks....and got the error message. Using the shortcut, as I understand it, would allow the reader to click and see the picture in a new window or replace the current one. I wanted to use the picture as an illustration beside the narrative. --Dean -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of Bob Raiselis Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:16 PM To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Subject: Re: Problem with Pictures on 7/8/02, Dean Landsman wrote: >Here's what happens --on the published page--> [Macro error: Can't include >picture "Cool Pneumonia Picture" because Can't include picture "Cool >Pneumonia Picture" because it doesn't exist in the list of shortcuts for >this site.] Check the Shortcuts page in the Editor's menu - sometimes the shortcut you think is assigned is not the shortcut you need to use... Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 10 12:55:31 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:55:31 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020709131626.01c77ac8@email.wc.cc.va.us> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020710075333.01c6ef48@email.wc.cc.va.us> At 11:35 PM 7/9/2002 -0400, Dean Landsman wrote: >Yes, in the original composition, I typed "Psychedelia? No! Pneumonia!" and >then the error message appeared. Problem still exists. I suspect the problem might be that the punctuation is causing strange things to happen. It is usually the case that the title of the picture is what you type to get it into a page (not the description). David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 10 14:57:17 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dean Landsman) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:57:17 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020710075333.01c6ef48@email.wc.cc.va.us> Message-ID: David, Punctuation doesn't seem to be the issue. I already tried renaming the picture and typing in the new name inside of quotes. --Dean -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of David Carter-Tod Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:56 AM To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Subject: RE: Problem with Pictures At 11:35 PM 7/9/2002 -0400, Dean Landsman wrote: >Yes, in the original composition, I typed "Psychedelia? No! Pneumonia!" and >then the error message appeared. Problem still exists. I suspect the problem might be that the punctuation is causing strange things to happen. It is usually the case that the title of the picture is what you type to get it into a page (not the description). David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 10 16:14:36 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ken Dow) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:14:36 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Dean, What about uploading the picture a second time with another name? You can use the Text field of the picture for descriptive stuff - it's appended to the title in the ALT field of the IMG tag. HTH. > Punctuation doesn't seem to be the issue. I already tried renaming the > picture and typing in the new name inside of quotes. -- Regards Ken Learn Manila and Radio in Toronto starting July 15th http://www.kendow.com/courses.html The mind is a fire to be kindled not a vessel to be filled. - Plutarch From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 10 16:22:53 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:22:53 -0400 Subject: What version Frontier/Manila? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020710152253.29660@pop2.valley.net> We're running a server with a half dozen or so Manila websites, with Frontier 7.0; Macintosh System software version 9.2.1. Should we upgrade to a more recent version of Frontier? what are the advantages? what's the current version for Mac OS 9? thanks. Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 10 23:52:01 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:52:01 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, we fixed the bandwidth problem (up from 2Kb to 300Kb), and the problem is still there. Not as often (4 out of 5 rather than 9 out of 10), but hardly less frustrating. Ideas? Now I'm *really* flummoxed. doc -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 02:02:42 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Lawrence Lee) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:02:42 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000e01c22876$a943f3d0$ba71ad8e@buntzen> I created a test message on your discussion group and started editing it with Radio and reloading it in my Web browser to verify the changes appeared and didn't notice the TCP error. How recently did you start to notice the errors and before that time did you ever come across the same error when saving a new blog entry from Radio? Lawrence > -----Original Message----- > From: Doc Searls > Sent: July 8, 2002 12:07 AM > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." > > > I use the Radio outliner to write my Manila blog. Lately when I save, > it usually unfailingly times out (I assume that's what happens) and > gives me an error message that says "Can't read stream because the > TCP connection was closed unexpectedly." Every change you see on my > blog right now is the result of about about 10 attempted saves. Very > frustrating. > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 04:00:34 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:00:34 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <000e01c22876$a943f3d0$ba71ad8e@buntzen> Message-ID: On 7/10/02 6:02 PM, "Lawrence Lee" wrote: > I created a test message on your discussion group and started editing it > with Radio and reloading it in my Web browser to verify the changes > appeared and didn't notice the TCP error. > > How recently did you start to notice the errors and before that time did > you ever come across the same error when saving a new blog entry from > Radio? Doc are you noticing this from all platforms or just os x? Sam D > > Lawrence > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Doc Searls >> Sent: July 8, 2002 12:07 AM >> To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com >> Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." >> >> >> I use the Radio outliner to write my Manila blog. Lately when I save, >> it usually unfailingly times out (I assume that's what happens) and >> gives me an error message that says "Can't read stream because the >> TCP connection was closed unexpectedly." Every change you see on my >> blog right now is the result of about about 10 attempted saves. Very >> frustrating. >> > ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 08:50:12 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dean Landsman) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 03:50:12 -0400 Subject: Problem with Pictures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: THANK YOU KEN! I uploaded it anew with another title, and BING! It worked! The assistance is greatly appreciated. --Dean http://deanland.weblogs.com -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of Ken Dow Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:15 AM To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Subject: Re: Problem with Pictures Hi Dean, What about uploading the picture a second time with another name? You can use the Text field of the picture for descriptive stuff - it's appended to the title in the ALT field of the IMG tag. HTH. > Punctuation doesn't seem to be the issue. I already tried renaming the > picture and typing in the new name inside of quotes. -- Regards Ken Learn Manila and Radio in Toronto starting July 15th http://www.kendow.com/courses.html The mind is a fire to be kindled not a vessel to be filled. - Plutarch From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 08:51:16 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:51:16 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:00 PM -0700 7/10/02, Sam DeVore wrote: >On 7/10/02 6:02 PM, "Lawrence Lee" wrote: > >> I created a test message on your discussion group and started editing it >> with Radio and reloading it in my Web browser to verify the changes >> appeared and didn't notice the TCP error. >> >> How recently did you start to notice the errors and before that time did >> you ever come across the same error when saving a new blog entry from >> Radio? > >Doc are you noticing this from all platforms or just os x? I don't use Radio on any other platform. I could try it on my wife's OS 9 laptop tomorrow. -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 08:50:25 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:50:25 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <000e01c22876$a943f3d0$ba71ad8e@buntzen> References: <000e01c22876$a943f3d0$ba71ad8e@buntzen> Message-ID: At 6:02 PM -0700 7/10/02, Lawrence Lee wrote: >I created a test message on your discussion group and started editing it >with Radio and reloading it in my Web browser to verify the changes >appeared and didn't notice the TCP error. > >How recently did you start to notice the errors and before that time did >you ever come across the same error when saving a new blog entry from >Radio? The same errors (ones with the same message) were always common, but not a problem. Maybe one save in ten saves was answered with that error message. It was about a week ago, after I got back from one of my trips, that it got really bad. But that's also when, unknown to me, the Cox connection on the upstream side started to suck. When it was fixed today the problem was reduced, but down to about 4 errors in 5 saves. But at the moment it's about 50-50. One in two. -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 15:27:14 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dave Winer) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:27:14 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." References: Message-ID: <020701c228e7$0d77d9f0$33a1dc40@murphy> Sam, I think Doc is seeing the same problem you were seeing connecting to RCS from Radio on Mac OS X. Since he wasn't seeing it before, the question is -- what variable changed? If he can't reproduce it on Mac OS 9, we will know. Dave From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 15:41:03 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:41:03 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <020701c228e7$0d77d9f0$33a1dc40@murphy> Message-ID: On 7/11/02 7:27 AM, "Dave Winer" wrote: > Sam, I think Doc is seeing the same problem you were seeing connecting to > RCS from Radio on Mac OS X. Since he wasn't seeing it before, the question > is -- what variable changed? If he can't reproduce it on Mac OS 9, we will > know. Dave > I think you are right, my guess is that he is getting more dropped packets to the server then he was before, and the connection between os x and windows is dropping the ball on resending them. Sam D ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 20:49:16 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:49:16 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3109236559_1482985 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 7/11/02 7:41 AM, "Sam DeVore" wrote: > On 7/11/02 7:27 AM, "Dave Winer" wrote: > >> Sam, I think Doc is seeing the same problem you were seeing connecting to >> RCS from Radio on Mac OS X. Since he wasn't seeing it before, the question >> is -- what variable changed? If he can't reproduce it on Mac OS 9, we will >> know. Dave >> > I think you are right, my guess is that he is getting more dropped packets > to the server then he was before, and the connection between os x and > windows is dropping the ball on resending them. I also suspect (but have no way of testing because I do not know enough) that this is related to some of the reported instances of OS x firing off data in full duplex but windows only listening in half duplex when data come from os x. This has been reported recently on some of the mac troubleshooting sites >From macintouch > i have an xp box and a few os x machines in my network. i talk to my xp box > via os x's built-in samba support. > > anyway, i noticed that, even though all of my machines are on a switch and > have 100baseT cards in them, i was getting TONS of packet loss between my xp > box (where my backup system and large drives are) and my macs. like, though i > have a switch, it was running at around 10% of it's rated speed. amazingly > slow. > > anyway, here's what was happening. > > when os x would tell xp that it wanted information at full duplex speeds, xp > would ignore it and run at half. so, x would be sending the info at full tilt, > while xp was listening half the time, resulting in amazing amounts of packet > loss. > > the fix? > > just force my nic on the xp box to run at full duplex all the time (in the > properties for the card in the hardware manager). now i'm getting amazing > speeds out of my network - as i should. > > i hear that the same is true with sfm running on nt. try it on your nics and > see if things work a bit quicker. Does anyone know how to test this thought? Sam D > --B_3109236559_1482985 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..."</TIT= LE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande">On 7/11/02 7:41 AM, "Sam DeVore" <s= devore@teachesme.com> wrote:<BR> <BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF">> On 7/11/02 7:27 AM, "Dave Winer" <d= ave@userland.com> wrote:<BR> > <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#008000">>> Sam, I think Doc is seeing the same p= roblem you were seeing connecting to<BR> >> RCS from Radio on Mac OS X. Since he wasn't seeing it before, the = question<BR> >> is -- what variable changed? If he can't reproduce it on Mac OS 9,= we will<BR> >> know. Dave<BR> >> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF">> I think you are right, my guess is that h= e is getting more dropped packets<BR> > to the server then he was before, and the connection between os x and<= BR> > windows is dropping the ball on resending them.<BR> </FONT><BR> I also suspect (but have no way of testing because I do not know enough) th= at this is related to some of the reported instances of OS x firing off data= in full duplex but windows only listening in half duplex when data come fro= m os x.  This has been reported recently on some of the mac troubleshoo= ting sites<BR> <BR> >From macintouch <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande">i have an xp box and a few os= x machines in my network. i talk to my xp box via os x's built-in samba sup= port.<BR> <BR> anyway, i noticed that, even though all of my machines are on a switch and = have 100baseT cards in them, i was getting TONS of packet loss between my xp= box (where my backup system and large drives are) and my macs. like, though= i have a switch, it was running at around 10% of it's rated speed. amazingl= y slow.<BR> <BR> anyway, here's what was happening.<BR> <BR> when os x would tell xp that it wanted information at full duplex speeds, x= p would ignore it and run at half. so, x would be sending the info at full t= ilt, while xp was listening half the time, resulting in amazing amounts of p= acket loss.<BR> <BR> the fix?<BR> <BR> just force my nic on the xp box to run at full duplex all the time (in the = properties for the card in the hardware manager). now i'm getting amazing sp= eeds out of my network - as i should.<BR> <BR> i hear that the same is true with sfm running on nt. try it on your nics an= d see if things work a bit quicker.<BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande"><BR> Does anyone know how to test this thought?<BR> <BR> Sam D<BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande"><BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML> --B_3109236559_1482985-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 03:54:45 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Eric Soroos) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:54:45 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <B9532F4C.10C01%sdevore@teachesme.com> Message-ID: <53897505.1185705211@[4.42.179.151]> > > > > just force my nic on the xp box to run at full duplex all the time (in the > > properties for the card in the hardware manager). now i'm getting amazing > > speeds out of my network - as i should. > > > > i hear that the same is true with sfm running on nt. try it on your nics and > > see if things work a bit quicker. > > Does anyone know how to test this thought? This shouldn't be an issue in anything but lan situations, and only in ones with cheap switches at that. He's looking at the difference between 100Mbps and 200Mpbs, (roughly) and that is only even close to possible on a lan. Back in one (frontier/radio, I don't remember) of the OSX beta periods, I remember running into a case where an OSX frontier/radio installation would wind up with queued outbound tcp data that was flushed by the os very slowly. The symptom disappeared, and I didn't think much more of it. On osx, when you're upstreaming, you sould be able to run a netstat command in a terminal window and see if there is anything in the send queue for all of the open connections. In the following example, there are a few www connections open, and none have any data in the sendq column. [erics@beet erics]$ netstat Active Internet connections (w/o servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 beet.wiredfool.com:2627 4.42.179.142:www ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 beet.wiredfool.com:2626 4.42.179.150:www ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 beet.wiredfool.com:2625 4.42.179.150:www ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 beet.wiredfool.com:2624 4.42.179.134:www CLOSE eric From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 04:27:58 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:27:58 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <53897505.1185705211@[4.42.179.151]> Message-ID: <B9539ACE.10C73%sdevore@teachesme.com> > This shouldn't be an issue in anything but lan situations, and only in on= es > with cheap switches at that. He's looking at the difference between 100Mb= ps > and 200Mpbs, (roughly) and that is only even close to possible on a lan. >=20 > Back in one (frontier/radio, I don't remember) of the OSX beta periods, I > remember running into a case where an OSX frontier/radio installation wou= ld > wind up with queued outbound tcp data that was flushed by the os very slo= wly. > The symptom disappeared, and I didn't think much more of it. >=20 > On osx, when you're upstreaming, you sould be able to run a netstat comma= nd > in a terminal window and see if there is anything in the send queue for a= ll of > the open connections. In the following example, there are a few www > connections open, and none have any data in the sendq column. > Eric, One of the things that Andr=E9 discovered when we were working on this upstreaming problem before was that when there were dropped packets going from Radio (and Frontier) running on OS X to a frontier server running on Win 2K that the packets were not resent properly. Is this an indication that there is a problem at the OS level with the tcp transport or do you think that it is an issue in the application. From the client side it was possible to duplicate the problem to some extent using the builtin xml-rpc commands in applescript. Any thoughts??? Sorry that this is not very newbie seeming Sam D From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 05:09:01 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:09:01 -0400 Subject: Usage stats In-Reply-To: <20020128200102.C7D863721@lists.userland.com> References: <20020128200102.C7D863721@lists.userland.com> Message-ID: <20020712040901.5251@pop2.valley.net> Aside from the usage stats page that is built into a Manila site, is there a way to derive more visitor statistics? Visits, search terms, longer term storage of the stats (stats over a longer period of time), etc? thanks. Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 06:55:30 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Eric Soroos) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:55:30 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <B9539ACE.10C73%sdevore@teachesme.com> Message-ID: <54548189.1185694366@[4.42.179.151]> Sorry, I should have been more precise. The duplex setting on the win2k machine's nic should only matter in a lan situation. > dropped packets going > from Radio (and Frontier) running on OS X to a frontier server running on > Win 2K that the packets were not resent properly. Is this an indication > that there is a problem at the OS level with the tcp transport or do you > think that it is an issue in the application. It's certainly indicitave of a tcp level problem. I'd be interested in seeing tcpdump captures of the traffic near each computer. (if it can be duped on flat simple lan, that would be ideal, but if not, then captures on or near the computers involved.) > From the client side it was > possible to duplicate the problem to some extent using the builtin xml-rpc > commands in applescript. Any thoughts??? I'd be curious to know if it happened from the bsd side of things, perhaps with a telnet http request/post or perhaps perl. > Sorry that this is not very newbie seeming We're probably into frontier-server--protocol-geeks territory now. ;> eric From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 11 23:09:33 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:09:33 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <020701c228e7$0d77d9f0$33a1dc40@murphy> References: <B95242E2.10B5A%sdevore@teachesme.com> <020701c228e7$0d77d9f0$33a1dc40@murphy> Message-ID: <p05111793b953b27a6bbd@[192.168.1.109]> At 7:27 AM -0700 7/11/02, Dave Winer wrote: >Sam, I think Doc is seeing the same problem you were seeing connecting to >RCS from Radio on Mac OS X. Since he wasn't seeing it before, the question >is -- what variable changed? If he can't reproduce it on Mac OS 9, we will >know. Dave Well, right now I can't seem to reproduce it on OS X, either. The problem seems to have gone away for now. (Note the long posts today.) -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 13:48:35 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:48:35 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <54548189.1185694366@[4.42.179.151]> References: <54548189.1185694366@[4.42.179.151]> Message-ID: <p05111708b95480747f4e@[192.168.1.104]> Unfortunately, things seem okay now. Only one error in the last ten saves. ds At 10:55 PM -0700 7/11/02, Eric Soroos wrote: >Sorry, I should have been more precise. The duplex setting on the >win2k machine's nic should only matter in a lan situation. > >> dropped packets going >> from Radio (and Frontier) running on OS X to a frontier server >running on >> Win 2K that the packets were not resent properly. Is this an >indication >> that there is a problem at the OS level with the tcp transport or do >you >> think that it is an issue in the application. > >It's certainly indicitave of a tcp level problem. I'd be interested in >seeing tcpdump captures of the traffic near each computer. (if it can >be duped on flat simple lan, that would be ideal, but if not, then >captures on or near the computers involved.) > >> From the client side it was >> possible to duplicate the problem to some extent using the builtin >xml-rpc >> commands in applescript. Any thoughts??? > >I'd be curious to know if it happened from the bsd side of things, >perhaps with a telnet http request/post or perhaps perl. > >> Sorry that this is not very newbie seeming > >We're probably into frontier-server--protocol-geeks territory now. > >;> > > >eric -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 15:10:00 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Rodney Kratochwill) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:10:00 -0400 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." Message-ID: <010401c229ad$d540a5e0$0560a8c0@RKRATOCHWILL> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C2298C.4E2F05E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure if this is related to the problem Doc is having, but there is an article on MacFixit about MTU settings causing problems in some cases, especially with PPPoE connections. Not sure whether your cable connection is using PPPoE or not but thought I'd mention it just in case. Rod ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C2298C.4E2F05E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4913.1100" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D667350614-12072002>Not = sure if this is=20 related to the problem Doc is having, but there is an article on = MacFixit about=20 MTU settings causing problems in some cases, especially with PPPoE=20 connections.  Not sure whether your cable connection is using PPPoE = or not=20 but thought I'd mention it just in case.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D667350614-12072002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D667350614-12072002>Rod</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C2298C.4E2F05E0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 20:38:40 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Michael Fraase) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:38:40 -0500 Subject: Usage stats In-Reply-To: <20020712190002.27437.38064.Mailman@lists.userland.com> Message-ID: <000001c229db$b9c7f060$79732ad0@further> Manila/Frontier fully supports the Common Log format so you can use any of the many log analysis tools. If you run your own server, you can do this yourself. If not, ask your provider/administrator to do it. 1. Go to the Control Panel for the server <http://www.yourhost.com/controlPanel>. 2. Enter your administration username and password. The Frontier Control Panel appears. 3. Click the Logging setting option. The Logging preferences appear. You're looking for the second section, "Common Log Format." 4. Turn on (click "Yes") the following: - Use common log date format? - Include referers? - Include User-agents? 5. Turn off (click "No") the Include virtual hosts? option. Last I checked, turning this option on caused the common logging to be disabled. Be aware that Manila/Frontier does nothing with these Common Log format files (a new one is created every day), it only creates the log files. You have to use a third-party log analysis tool to do anything with them. -- Michael Fraase, partner ARTS & FARCES LLC mfraase@farces.com www.farces.com > -----Original Message----- > Message: 4 > From: Bob Raiselis <bob.raiselis@valley.net> > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Subject: Usage stats > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:09:01 -0400 > Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > > Aside from the usage stats page that is built into a Manila > site, is there a way to derive more visitor statistics? > Visits, search terms, longer term storage of the stats (stats > over a longer period of time), etc? > > thanks. > > Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 22:19:24 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:19:24 -0500 Subject: discussion group formatting error Message-ID: <3368EA7C4178D411B18800508B5FDBE9023FB88D@exchlnk.iuniverse.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C229E9.CBD41D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Various posts to the discussion group threads result in entries that don't wrap the text. Instead, the post is extremely long, and horizontal scrolling is required (even with an 1152x864 resolution). Does anyone know why this is occurring, or know a fix? Refer to following URL for example: http://community.iuniverse.com/writing/discuss/msgReader$371?mode=topic <http://community.iuniverse.com/writing/discuss/msgReader$371?mode=topic&y=2 002&m=7&d=12> &y=2002&m=7&d=12 JT -- Jeremy J. Tredway Web Producer iUniverse jeremy.tredway@iuniverse.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C229E9.CBD41D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3DISO-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2713.1100" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D343371721-12072002><FONT size=3D2>Various posts to = the discussion=20 group threads result in entries that don't wrap the text. Instead, the = post is=20 extremely long, and horizontal scrolling is required (even with an = 1152x864=20 resolution). Does anyone know why this is occurring, or know a fix? = Refer to=20 following URL for example:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D343371721-12072002><FONT = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D343371721-12072002><FONT size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://community.iuniverse.com/writing/discuss/msgReader$371?mod= e=3Dtopic&y=3D2002&m=3D7&d=3D12">http://community.iuniverse.= com/writing/discuss/msgReader$371?mode=3Dtopic&y=3D2002&m=3D7&am= p;d=3D12</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D343371721-12072002><FONT = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D343371721-12072002><FONT = size=3D2>JT</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D1>--</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D1>Jeremy J. Tredway<BR>Web=20 Producer<BR>iUniverse<BR>jeremy.tredway@iuniverse.com<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C229E9.CBD41D70-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 22:37:14 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:37:14 -0700 Subject: discussion group formatting error In-Reply-To: <3368EA7C4178D411B18800508B5FDBE9023FB88D@exchlnk.iuniverse.com> Message-ID: <B9549A1A.10D20%sdevore@teachesme.com> > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3109329436_479799 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 7/12/02 2:19 PM, "Jeremy.Tredway@iuniverse.com" <Jeremy.Tredway@iuniverse.com> wrote: > Various posts to the discussion group threads result in entries that don't > wrap the text. Instead, the post is extremely long, and horizontal scrolling > is required (even with an 1152x864 resolution). Does anyone know why this is > occurring, or know a fix? Refer to following URL for example: > > http://community.iuniverse.com/writing/discuss/msgReader$371?mode=topic&y=2002 > &m=7&d=12 > <http://community.iuniverse.com/writing/discuss/msgReader$371?mode=topic&y > =2002&m=7&d=12> > > JT > -- > Jeremy J. Tredway > Web Producer > iUniverse > jeremy.tredway@iuniverse.com > > > It is this line in the discussion group text entered like this <pre>Jeremy,<p> Except it keeps not working for me when I do the preformat deal. It scrolls right, out of control, still about 60% of the time. Let's see if I get lucky this time or not.<p> Terry.</pre> All this is wrapped in the pre tag so that second line, which has no returns, is PREformated to be all one line so the browser does just that. It did exactly what Terry told it to. If Terry were to add line breaks to make it look right in the box Terry would not pop the table out like that. Perhaps another tag would be in order (that is why on some of my sites PRE is not a legal tag... HTH Sam d ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== --B_3109329436_479799 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: discussion group formatting error On 7/12/02 2:19 PM, "Jeremy.Tredway@iuniver= se.com" <Jeremy.Tredway@iuniverse.com> wrote:

Various posts = to the discussion group threads result in entries that don't wrap the text. = Instead, the post is extremely long, and horizontal scrolling is required (e= ven with an 1152x864 resolution). Does anyone know why this is occurring, or= know a fix? Refer to following URL for example:

http://community.iuniverse.com/writing/discuss/msgReader$371= ?mode=3Dtopic&y=3D2002&m=3D7&d=3D12 <http://community.iuniverse.com/w= riting/discuss/msgReader$371?mode=3Dtopic&amp;y=3D2002&amp;m=3D7&amp;d= =3D12>

JT
--
Jeremy J. Tredway
Web Producer
iUniverse
jeremy.tredway@iuniverse.com

 


It is this line in the discussion group text entered like this
<pre>Jeremy,<p>

Except it keeps not working for me when I do the preformat deal.  It s= crolls right, out of control, still about 60% of the time.  Let's see i= f I get lucky this time or not.<p>

Terry.</pre>

All this is wrapped in the pre tag so that second line, which has no return= s, is PREformated to be all one line so the browser does just that.  It= did exactly what Terry told it to.  If Terry were to add line breaks t= o make it look right in the box Terry would not pop the table out like that.=  Perhaps another tag would be in order (that is why on some of my site= s PRE is not a legal tag...

HTH

Sam d
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www.TeachesMe.com
Because if you are not managing your content...
Who is?
See us for content management for teachers/schools/students
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--B_3109329436_479799-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 12 22:22:40 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Doc Searls) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:22:40 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <010401c229ad$d540a5e0$0560a8c0@RKRATOCHWILL> References: <010401c229ad$d540a5e0$0560a8c0@RKRATOCHWILL> Message-ID: At 10:10 AM -0400 7/12/02, Rodney Kratochwill wrote: >Not sure if this is related to the problem Doc is having, but there >is an article on MacFixit about MTU settings causing problems in >some cases, especially with PPPoE connections. Not sure whether >your cable connection is using PPPoE or not but thought I'd mention >it just in case. It's DHCP. No PPPoE anywhere in sight. Very simple connection. There is a hub and router involved, but I had the same problem when I took them out of the chain. And now the problem is gone. Not sure what happened or who to thank, but::: thanks! ds -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Jul 13 01:31:29 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:31:29 EDT Subject: audio question Message-ID: <120.130b7663.2a60cee1@aol.com> I was wondering how I can make my audio file loop. I created the following macro: {_conferences.playsong("http://www.aieseconline.net/blogs/gems/ssc2002/robertm ilespachelbelscanoncl.mp3")} but the file only plays once. Does anyone know? Thanks! From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Jul 13 04:54:44 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:54:44 EDT Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." Message-ID: <1b8.3194a49.2a60fe84@aol.com> Please purge your email addresses as I keep getting emails that I dont need or want thank you From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Jul 13 19:22:30 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Tim Lauer) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:22:30 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I used to get this problem at work. Then it went away. Now this morning it is back. Am at home on ATTBI. Have a wireless connection from my laptop. I was able to post at 9:02 am this morning. Tried another a few minutes later and started to get the following error: Can't upstream because "Can't write stream because the TCP connection was closed unexpectedly." Am running OS X. 10.1.5 http://radio.weblogs.com/0100400/ Have another laptop running OS X and just downloaded a copy of radio and set it up and it works. Running on the same wireless network.... http://radio.weblogs.com/0110662/ Any ideas? Thanks, Tim Lauer From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sat Jul 13 22:26:22 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ted Cuzzillo) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:26:22 -0700 Subject: Manila does discussion groups? Message-ID: Manila is intriguing. But I'd like to make sure of one thing before I buy it: Does Manila come with everything necessary to run discussions? That is, I take it out of the box, install it on my desktop and, presumably, on my host server, and I've got discussion groups, right? (Participants not included, of course.) Ted From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 14 00:46:53 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:46:53 -0700 Subject: Manila does discussion groups? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/13/02 2:26 PM, "Ted Cuzzillo" wrote: > Manila is intriguing. But I'd like to make sure of one thing before I > buy it: Does Manila come with everything necessary to run > discussions? That is, I take it out of the box, install it on my > desktop and, presumably, on my host server, and I've got discussion > groups, right? (Participants not included, of course.) Discusssion groups (like http://manilanewbies.userland.com/discuss/ ) yes, chat no. See http://manilanewbies.userland.com/directory/4720/discussionGroup for more information Sam D > > Ted ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 14 01:30:21 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:30:21 -0400 Subject: How to get the template to fit on the standard computer screen. Message-ID: How do you get the following template to fit on the standard computer screen?... http://NotB4WeKnow.EditThisPage.com Cheers! oo__ Don Warner Saklad From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 14 01:34:34 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:34:34 -0700 Subject: How to get the template to fit on the standard computer screen. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/13/02 5:30 PM, "Don Saklad" wrote: > How do you get the following template to fit > on the standard computer screen?... > http://NotB4WeKnow.EditThisPage.com > Do something about this link http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&as_scoring=date&btnG=Google+Se arch&as_oq=&as_epq=get+tested+together+first&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=& as_uauthors=&as_umsgid=&lr=&as_drrb=quick&as_qdr=&as_mind=15&as_minm=8&as_mi ny=2000&as_maxd=27&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2001 It's too long and it will not break try doing this what ever You might look at other links there as well. HTH SamD > > > Cheers! > oo__ Don Warner Saklad ==================== Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com www.TeachesMe.com Because if you are not managing your content... Who is? See us for content management for teachers/schools/students ===================== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 14 01:39:08 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:39:08 -0400 Subject: How to get the template to fit on the standard computer screen. In-Reply-To: (message from Sam DeVore on Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:34:34 -0700) References: Message-ID: Thank you Samuel C. DeVore! How could the link be wraped so that if anyone wanted to cut and paste it that wouldn't require extra steps to capture it correctly?... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 14 03:37:21 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (R. Scott Granneman) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:37:21 -0500 Subject: How to get the template to fit on the standard computer screen. References: Message-ID: <3D30E3E1.9030900@granneman.com> Why not use http://www.makeashorterlink.com or http://tinyurl.com? Scott Sam DeVore wrote: > On 7/13/02 5:30 PM, "Don Saklad" wrote: > > >>How do you get the following template to fit >>on the standard computer screen?... >>http://NotB4WeKnow.EditThisPage.com >> > > Do something about this link > http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&as_scoring=date&btnG=Google+Se > arch&as_oq=&as_epq=get+tested+together+first&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=& > as_uauthors=&as_umsgid=&lr=&as_drrb=quick&as_qdr=&as_mind=15&as_minm=8&as_mi > ny=2000&as_maxd=27&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2001 > > It's too long and it will not break try doing this > href="http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&as_scoring=date&btnG=Goo > gle+Search&as_oq=&as_epq=get+tested+together+first&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usub > ject=&as_uauthors=&as_umsgid=&lr=&as_drrb=quick&as_qdr=&as_mind=15&as_minm=8 > &as_miny=2000&as_maxd=27&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2001">what ever > > You might look at other links there as well. > > HTH > > SamD > >> >>Cheers! >>oo__ Don Warner Saklad > > > ==================== > Samuel C. DeVore sdevore@teachesme.com > www.TeachesMe.com > Because if you are not managing your content... > Who is? > See us for content management for teachers/schools/students > ===================== > -- R. Scott Granneman scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com "... any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never seem to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." ---John Donne From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 15 13:15:50 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:15:50 -0400 Subject: How to enhance, improve weblogs. Message-ID: I'm looking for suggestions for simple things that might enhance or improve my community type weblogs http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories http://NotB4WeKnow.EditThisPage.com http://BifidRib.ManilaSites.com Any simple enhancement, change and improvement... One thing that I had in mind was to find enhancements, changes or improvements that people with low vision or people who're blind using vocalization software can use the weblogs more easily. From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 15 16:41:34 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dan Geiser) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:41:34 -0400 Subject: How to enhance, improve weblogs. References: Message-ID: Don, As far as accessibility issues go Mark Pilgrim of Dive Into Mark, http://diveintomark.org/, has been spending his last month of weblogging creating a set of posts called "30 days to a more accessible weblog". You might want to check out what he has posted. It looks like he has done some good stuff there. As of today he is on Day 25. http://diveintomark.org/archives/rooms/30_days_to_a_more_accessible_weblog/i ndex.html Dan http://www.weblogs.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Saklad" To: ; Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:15 AM Subject: How to enhance, improve weblogs. > I'm looking for suggestions for simple things that might enhance or improve > my community type weblogs > http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories > http://NotB4WeKnow.EditThisPage.com > http://BifidRib.ManilaSites.com > > > Any simple enhancement, change and improvement... > > One thing that I had in mind was to find enhancements, changes or > improvements that people with low vision or people who're blind using > vocalization software can use the weblogs more easily. > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 16 10:47:41 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Frank) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:47:41 +0200 Subject: blank space Message-ID: <004301c22cad$d4742120$52783850@ekelsplemej7et> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C22CBE.97843EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On my page at http://www.psycholoog.net made with Manila, there is a = little blank line above the line that shows the current date (darkblue). = There is also some space around the picture in the banner at the top. How can I erase that space? Thanks very much for your answers. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C22CBE.97843EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On my page at http://www.psycholoog.net made = with Manila,=20 there is a little blank line above the line that shows the current date=20 (darkblue).
There is also some space around the = picture in the=20 banner at the top.
How can I erase that = space?
Thanks very much for your=20 answers.
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C22CBE.97843EB0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 16 14:45:43 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Frank) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:45:43 +0200 Subject: question #2 Message-ID: <009c01c22ccf$14bcb8c0$52783850@ekelsplemej7et> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C22CDF.D81020E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How come there is a huge gap between the top of the page and my texts on = this article (like on many others as well): http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$514 Thanks! Frank. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C22CDF.D81020E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How come there is a huge gap between = the top of the=20 page and my texts on this article (like on many others as = well):
 
http://www.psy= choloog.net/stories/storyReader$514
 
Thanks!
 
Frank.
------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C22CDF.D81020E0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 16 16:24:19 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:24:19 -0400 Subject: question #2 In-Reply-To: <009c01c22ccf$14bcb8c0$52783850@ekelsplemej7et> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020716111558.01c50db0@email.wc.cc.va.us> At 03:45 PM 7/16/2002 +0200, Frank wrote: >How come there is a huge gap between the top of the page and my texts on >this article (like on many others as well): > >http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$514 You probably have a table cell with vertical alignment set to middle. I usually solve these problems by setting the borders of tables (or even everything) to be visible, e.g. see this page for an easy way to do this: http://www.meryl.net/articles/archives/001014.php David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 16 19:18:28 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Joseph Frichtl) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:18:28 -0500 Subject: question #2 References: <009c01c22ccf$14bcb8c0$52783850@ekelsplemej7et> Message-ID: <3D346375.55230476@waukeganschools.org> --------------179E8BA7C9C0974E6F61F432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank, You need to set your page margins to 0 to get rid of the top spacing. Joe :) Frank wrote: > How come there is a huge gap between the top of the page and my texts > on this article (like on many others as > well): http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$514 Thanks! Frank. --------------179E8BA7C9C0974E6F61F432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank,

You need to set your page margins to 0 to get rid of the top spacing.

Joe :)

Frank wrote:

How come there is a huge gap between the top of the page and my texts on this article (like on many others as well): http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$514 Thanks! Frank.
--------------179E8BA7C9C0974E6F61F432-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 16 19:20:38 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Joseph Frichtl) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:20:38 -0500 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." References: Message-ID: <3D3463F7.27E44A69@waukeganschools.org> Tim, I have mac OS X desktops & laptop running on ATTBI wireless. I do not have any issues .... I would first check your tcp/ip settings. just use dhcp. Joe :) Tim Lauer wrote: > I used to get this problem at work. Then it went away. > > Now this morning it is back. Am at home on ATTBI. Have a wireless connection > from my laptop. > > I was able to post at 9:02 am this morning. Tried another a few minutes > later and started to get the following error: > > Can't upstream because "Can't write stream because the TCP connection was > closed unexpectedly." > > Am running OS X. 10.1.5 > http://radio.weblogs.com/0100400/ > > Have another laptop running OS X and just downloaded a copy of radio and set > it up and it works. Running on the same wireless network.... > > http://radio.weblogs.com/0110662/ > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Tim Lauer From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 16 20:25:40 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Frank) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:25:40 +0200 Subject: respons to David Carter and Joseph Frichtl Message-ID: <01df01c22cfe$921b4050$52783850@ekelsplemej7et> Thanks for the answers, but I don't think they offer the solution to solve this problem. Please check again, a story which has the huge blank space: http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$514 And another one, written some days earlier, which seems fine to me: http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$507 Top-margin is set to 0 now. Regards, Frank. From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 16 20:49:50 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:49:50 -0400 Subject: respons to David Carter and Joseph Frichtl In-Reply-To: <01df01c22cfe$921b4050$52783850@ekelsplemej7et> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020716154453.01d97ea0@email.wc.cc.va.us> At 09:25 PM 7/16/2002 +0200, Frank wrote: >Thanks for the answers, but I don't think they offer the solution to solve >this problem. >Please check again, a story which has the huge blank space: >http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$514 > >And another one, written some days earlier, which seems fine to me: >http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$507 > >Top-margin is set to 0 now. To be honest, it looks to me that your HTML is all over the place. Check it against the W3C validator. http://validator.w3.org/ You have so many tables inside tables and a good deal of invalid code, it's hard to know where to start. David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 16 23:36:36 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Matt Carrico) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:36:36 -0700 Subject: respons to David Carter and Joseph Frichtl References: <01df01c22cfe$921b4050$52783850@ekelsplemej7et> Message-ID: <011201c22d19$3f9bc280$c6dfe8d8@DEATHSTAR> I think what you want to do is find in your template, right before the {bodytext} macro call, the text that reads: and replace it with: hth, Matt > Thanks for the answers, but I don't think they offer the solution to solve > this problem. > Please check again, a story which has the huge blank space: > http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$514 > > And another one, written some days earlier, which seems fine to me: > http://www.psycholoog.net/stories/storyReader$507 > > Top-margin is set to 0 now. > > Regards, > > Frank. > > > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 18 05:16:02 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Eric Soroos) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:16:02 -0700 Subject: "Can't read stream because the TCP connection..." In-Reply-To: <010401c229ad$d540a5e0$0560a8c0@RKRATOCHWILL> Message-ID: <85293891.1185181934@[4.42.179.151]> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:10:00 -0400 in message <010401c229ad$d540a5e0$0560a8c0@RKRATOCHWILL>, "Rodney Kratochwill" wrote: > Not sure if this is related to the problem Doc is having, but there is an > article on MacFixit about MTU settings causing problems in some cases, > especially with PPPoE connections. Not sure whether your cable connection > is using PPPoE or not but thought I'd mention it just in case. A co-worker just ran into this in a win2k/MSIE client -> osx server (8.05, 10.1.5). Connections would just appear to hang on the w2k side of things. >From the osx machine, I see: (netstat -n | head -n 10) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp 500 0 192.168.1.89.80 192.168.1.101.1300 ESTABLISHED tcp 502 0 192.168.1.89.80 192.168.1.101.1299 ESTABLISHED Which indicates 2 connections that have a recieve queue of about half a K. This state was maintained for a little while, long enough to find terminal.app and run the commands. This would _seem_ to indicate that it's an OS level problem and not something that's isolated to either a radio client or a win2k server. According to him, this happens at no predictable interval, but usually once a day or so. Quitting and restarting frontier seems to clear things up. This would seem to indicate that there is some interaction with the app that makes a difference. The frontier server is running on a kernel port forwarded setup. Lan layout in this case is that both machines are connected to the same 100bT hub (not a switch), so there is no duplex issue to contend with. >From the fact that there are items in the queue, I'm not sure that that indicates that there might be a dropped packet problem, as people have been theorizing in this thread. It would seem that if that was the case, then there wouldn't be data in the queue. It's possible that the kernel is wating for a tcp packet fragment to reassemble into a full packet before forwarding to the port frontier is listening on, although I'm not sure how a packet would get fragmented on a lan. I'll probably be looking at this in a little more detail the next time it happens. eric From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 18 10:09:37 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:09:37 +0100 Subject: pre-Newbie Questions Message-ID: <31954340900AD611BFA8004095332F640402AB@NTCOM> We are evaluating Manila as a poss vehicle for our intranet. Who better to ask than others who are already using the product. Some quick answers (yes/no) as to whether the following are possible would be useful in order to make a decision (though links to more detail would be helpful should we go ahead, which seems likely): Can we use Manila to : Import users from csv file (name, e-mail, password, group(s), bulletins on/off etc)(Then we can switch of join to complement this) Remove comment on page from home page. (and stories, news etc), but not discussion post 'future' news - ie future events that would show up as a link on future days on calendar, and only appear on news list on/after that date 'expire' stories, news etc so it is not on view but not deleted - possibly to make a re-appearance. Perhaps put in an archive/temp holding area Limit the size of a site Can Manila run from IIS and/or Apache, rather than its own webserver? if not, then from behind IIS and/or Apache? (I am presuming there is a howto somewhere on the details) I am also interested in scalability/response performance - are there some stats somewhere to tell me about this with sample site sizes/number of users/number of accesses etc? I have tried to find answers in previous postings without success - if I have missed anything, I apologise - a link to the relevant question would be appreciated. Many thanks in anticipation. Andy Hawkins From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 18 12:10:34 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Peter Harbeson) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:10:34 -0400 Subject: pre-Newbie Questions In-Reply-To: <31954340900AD611BFA8004095332F640402AB@NTCOM> Message-ID: Manila can run behind IIS; you essentially use the content management system to generate static web pages, then use IIS (or any web server) to serve them up. You can remove the discussion links from the home page. (Is that what you mean?) I found a way to post "future" news, but it's a bit of a hack. I stored my future stories in a database table, then used a script to "publish" them on the assigned day by moving them from my "storage" table to another table. I did this directly in Frontier rather than through the browser interface, but it seems like it would be possible to build a web interface. I don't think Manila includes this function out of the box. Expiration is available by setting the number of "news days" to display on the home page. News items that scroll off the home page are still available through the calendar -- but if you put the calendar on some other page, those stories would be "archived" in a sense. I can think of some "brute force" methods for limiting the size of a site by limiting the amount of disk storage available to the site, but I don't know if there's a more graceful approach. I don't know where to find performance stats, but I built a site that achieved 2.3 million hits, served several gigabytes of data, and hosted up to 20 sub-sites over its first year, and performance never even began to be an issue. The database I/O appears to be quite fast. Hope it helps. -Pete Harbeson On Thursday, July 18, 2002, at 05:09 AM, a.hawkins@st- bedes.surrey.sch.uk wrote: > We are evaluating Manila as a poss vehicle for our intranet. Who better > to > ask than others who are already using the product. > > Some quick answers (yes/no) as to whether the following are possible > would > be useful in order to make a decision (though links to more detail > would be > helpful should we go ahead, which seems likely): > > Can we use Manila to : > > Import users from csv file (name, e-mail, password, group(s), bulletins > on/off etc)(Then we can switch of join to complement > this) > Remove comment on page from home page. (and stories, news etc), but not > discussion > post 'future' news - ie future events that would show up as a link on > future > days on calendar, and only appear on news list on/after that date > 'expire' stories, news etc so it is not on view but not deleted - > possibly > to make a re-appearance. Perhaps put in an archive/temp holding area > Limit the size of a site > > Can Manila run from IIS and/or Apache, rather than its own webserver? if > not, then from behind IIS and/or Apache? (I am presuming there is a > howto > somewhere on the details) > > I am also interested in scalability/response performance - are there > some > stats somewhere to tell me about this with sample site sizes/number of > users/number of accesses etc? > > I have tried to find answers in previous postings without success - if I > have missed anything, I apologise - a link to the relevant question > would > be appreciated. > > Many thanks in anticipation. > Andy Hawkins > > > --- Peter Harbeson peterh@empire.net From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 18 15:41:24 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:41:24 -0400 Subject: pre-Newbie Questions In-Reply-To: References: <31954340900AD611BFA8004095332F640402AB@NTCOM> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020718103222.051b3008@email.wc.cc.va.us> At 07:10 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, Peter Harbeson wrote: >Manila can run behind IIS; you essentially use the content management >system to generate static web pages, then use IIS (or any web server) to >serve them up. There are other ways too. You can also put Manila behind an Apache proxy on any platform. Here's an example: http://frontier-osx.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$945?mode=day >Import users from csv file (name, e-mail, password, group(s), bulletins >on/off etc) This isn't built-in as best I recall, but wouldn't be hard to do for a beginning Frontier programmer - the users table is a fairly simple structure. Actually, it's not a bad idea for a plugin! There are other authentication methods too. I've written an LDAP tool, for example - http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/dtod/frontier/ldapManila.html. >(Then we can switch of join to complement >this) You can just remove the link from the membership templates. >I am also interested in scalability/response performance - are there some >stats somewhere to tell me about this with sample site sizes/number of >users/number of accesses etc? This thread shows some numbers if you read down: http://frontier.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$9060 David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Jul 18 10:22:42 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Daniel Springett) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:22:42 +0900 Subject: pre-Newbie Questions In-Reply-To: <31954340900AD611BFA8004095332F640402AB@NTCOM> References: <31954340900AD611BFA8004095332F640402AB@NTCOM> Message-ID: <20020718092242.29039@smtp.ktv.ne.jp> >Can we use Manila to : > >Import users from csv file (name, e-mail, password, group(s), bulletins >on/off etc)(Then we can switch of join to complement >this) yes if you have access to the frontier server >Remove comment on page from home page. (and stories, news etc), but not >discussion Yes >post 'future' news - ie future events that would show up as a link on future >days on calendar, and only appear on news list on/after that date >'expire' stories, news etc so it is not on view but not deleted - possibly >to make a re-appearance. Perhaps put in an archive/temp holding area >Limit the size of a site yes > >Can Manila run from IIS and/or Apache, rather than its own webserver? if >not, then from behind IIS and/or Apache? (I am presuming there is a howto >somewhere on the details) As i understand, yes, although no practice in this > >I am also interested in scalability/response performance - are there some >stats somewhere to tell me about this with sample site sizes/number of >users/number of accesses etc? someone let me know too :) > >I have tried to find answers in previous postings without success - if I >have missed anything, I apologise - a link to the relevant question would >be appreciated. You will need both bayly.root and metadata.root from and cheers daniel > >Many thanks in anticipation. >Andy Hawkins > > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Jul 19 14:15:01 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (=?Windows-1252?Q?Thomas_Br=FCll?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:15:01 +0200 Subject: how to include external dynamic content into a story? Message-ID: <006801c22f26$49caded0$1501a8c0@DELLTB> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C22F37.0D4C82E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello, does anybody know how to include the dynamic content of an external = discussion group (php-site) into a manila-story? it should appear where normaly the {body} can bee = seen and there should be a path like http://my.manilasite.com/forum to get it. thanks a lot, tom ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C22F37.0D4C82E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C22F37.0D4C82E0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 21 10:22:31 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 05:22:31 -0400 Subject: How to reply to a discussion. Message-ID: 1. How do you fix the template at http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$281?mode=day#reply so that when people click on reply what they need it right there?... Regrettably, what happens now is unclear to people willing to reply, it's unclear what to do! 2. What does it do, what does it mean in that part of the URL?... mode=day . From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Jul 21 10:55:42 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 05:55:42 -0400 Subject: How to change wording for signup. Message-ID: 1. How do you change the template at http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/member/signup so that instead of Member Signup Form it reads Particiate! . From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 22 13:09:43 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:09:43 -0400 Subject: How to reply to a discussion. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020722080715.07278918@email.wc.cc.va.us> At 05:22 AM 7/21/2002 -0400, Don Saklad wrote: >1. How do you fix the template at >http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$281?mode=day#reply > > so that when people click on reply > what they need it right there?... > > > Regrettably, what happens now is unclear > to people willing to reply, it's unclear what to do! If people are logged in, the reply form should be right there under the message. If they're not, then they need to be told to log in (or join). >2. What does it do, what does it mean in that part of the URL?... mode=day There are two basic options for message viewing: mode=topic and mode=day mode=day is the default and shows the message by itself mode=topic shows the message and all the replies to it. In many templates you can get to it by clicking the Topic link at the top of the message. hth David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 22 13:17:37 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:17:37 -0400 Subject: How to change wording for signup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020722081120.01cd3d30@email.wc.cc.va.us> At 05:55 AM 7/21/2002 -0400, Don Saklad wrote: >1. How do you change the template at >http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/member/signup > > so that instead of > Member Signup Form > it reads > Particiate! I'm not sure you can, but you can change the form if you wish: http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/admin/sitePrefs/default$advanced#customprefs see http://manilanewbies.userland.com/usersguide/advancedprefs/customprefs David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 22 14:54:45 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:54:45 -0400 Subject: How to change wording for signup. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020722081120.01cd3d30@email.wc.cc.va.us> (message from David Carter-Tod on Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:17:37 -0400) References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020722081120.01cd3d30@email.wc.cc.va.us> Message-ID: Thank you David Carter-Tod! Regrettably, that form didn't have an element to change the form wording at http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/member/signup from "Member Signup Form" to the wording "Paticipate!" Cheers! and kind regards, oo__ don Warner saklad http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories http://NotB4WeKnow.EditThisPage.com http://BifidRib.ManilaSites.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 22 15:12:17 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (R. Scott Granneman) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:12:17 -0500 Subject: How to change wording for signup. References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020722081120.01cd3d30@email.wc.cc.va.us> Message-ID: <3D3C12C1.3090600@granneman.com> Without hacking into Frontier, you can't change it, AFAIK. Even if you DID change it, the next time you updated your system, which is probably nightly, UserLand could very well nuke your change. Short answer: You can. Shorter answer: Don't bother. Scott Don Saklad wrote: > Thank you David Carter-Tod! > > Regrettably, that form didn't have an element to change the form wording > at > http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/member/signup > > from > "Member Signup Form" > to the wording > "Paticipate!" > > > > > Cheers! and kind regards, > oo__ don Warner saklad > > http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories > http://NotB4WeKnow.EditThisPage.com > http://BifidRib.ManilaSites.com > -- R. Scott Granneman scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com "... any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never seem to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." ---John Donne From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 22 15:22:46 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David A. Bayly) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:22:46 +0100 Subject: How to change wording for signup. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jump to manilaData.localization.languages.english.strings.members.signUpPageTitle and change the value to Particiate!, perhaps fixing the spelling first. :-) All the caveats others have mentioned apply, Userland *could* change this but probably will not. This is much safer than changing scripts. >1. How do you change the template at >http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/member/signup > > so that instead of > Member Signup Form > it reads > Particiate! > > > > > > > > > > >. -- - David Bayly. Programmer and digest reader. dbayly at udena dot ch Digest Readers do it once a day. From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 22 16:38:40 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Don Saklad) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:38:40 -0400 Subject: How to change wording for signup. In-Reply-To: (dbayly@udena.ch) References: Message-ID: Thank you David A. Bayly! What's the URL for that?... From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 22 16:56:24 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David A. Bayly) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:56:24 +0100 Subject: How to change wording for signup. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Thank you David A. Bayly! > > What's the URL for that?... I am assuming that you have access to the server. if you don't , then its not a solution for you. -- - David Bayly. Programmer and digest reader. dbayly at udena dot ch Digest Readers do it once a day. From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 23 04:53:55 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Granneman) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:53:55 -0500 Subject: Error in documentation ... please fix Message-ID: <1027396436.4421.11.camel@homer> This error has been in the documentation for over a year. Could someone please fix this? It will take all of 30 seconds. On the pictureRef macro page -- http://macros.userland.com/basic/pictureRef -- at the bottom of the page, where the example is, we have this: {pictureRef ("My Picture", "This is alt text", border:3, glossRef:"Sites I Visit", rollsrc:"My Rollover" The example is missing the closing parens & the closing curly brace. I have now taught my 6th Web design class about Manila, and this error has been a constant thorn in my side. It confuses my students no end. Please fix it, UserLand! Thanks. Scott -- R. Scott Granneman scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com "It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose." ---Darrin Weinberg From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 23 05:46:25 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Lawrence Lee) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:46:25 -0700 Subject: Error in documentation ... please fix In-Reply-To: <1027396436.4421.11.camel@homer> Message-ID: <000001c23203$e704b010$ba71ad8e@buntzen> It's been corrected. Lawrence > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Granneman > Sent: July 22, 2002 8:54 PM > To: Manila Newbies > Subject: Error in documentation ... please fix > > > This error has been in the documentation for over a year. > Could someone please fix this? It will take all of 30 seconds. > > On the pictureRef macro page -- > http://macros.userland.com/basic/pictureRef -- > at the bottom > of the page, where the example is, we have this: > > {pictureRef ("My Picture", "This is alt text", border:3, > glossRef:"Sites I Visit", rollsrc:"My Rollover" > > The example is missing the closing parens & the closing curly brace. > > I have now taught my 6th Web design class about Manila, and > this error has been a constant thorn in my side. It confuses > my students no end. Please fix it, UserLand! > > Thanks. > > Scott From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Jul 23 07:00:17 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Granneman) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:00:17 -0500 Subject: Error in documentation ... please fix In-Reply-To: <000001c23203$e704b010$ba71ad8e@buntzen> References: <000001c23203$e704b010$ba71ad8e@buntzen> Message-ID: <1027404018.4401.13.camel@homer> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Scott On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 23:46, Lawrence Lee wrote: > It's been corrected. > > Lawrence > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott Granneman > > Sent: July 22, 2002 8:54 PM > > To: Manila Newbies > > Subject: Error in documentation ... please fix > > > > > > This error has been in the documentation for over a year. > > Could someone please fix this? It will take all of 30 seconds. > > > > On the pictureRef macro page -- > > http://macros.userland.com/basic/pictureRef -- > at the bottom > > of the page, where the example is, we have this: > > > > {pictureRef ("My Picture", "This is alt text", border:3, > > glossRef:"Sites I Visit", rollsrc:"My Rollover" > > > > The example is missing the closing parens & the closing curly brace. > > > > I have now taught my 6th Web design class about Manila, and > > this error has been a constant thorn in my side. It confuses > > my students no end. Please fix it, UserLand! > > > > Thanks. > > > > Scott > -- R. Scott Granneman scott@granneman.com ~ www.granneman.com Join GranneNotes! Information at www.granneman.com "The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you." ---Rita Mae Brown From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Jul 24 17:31:02 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (G. Secondino) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:31:02 -0400 Subject: how to include external dynamic content into a story? In-Reply-To: <006801c22f26$49caded0$1501a8c0@DELLTB> Message-ID: on 7/19/02 9:15 AM, Thomas Br=FCll at tb@dnsolutions.at wrote: > hello, >=20 > does anybody know how to include the dynamic content of an external discu= ssion > group (php-site) > into a manila-story? it should appear where normaly the {body} can bee se= en > and there > should be a path like http://my.manilasite.com/forum to get it. >=20 > thanks a lot, tom >=20 Tom, There's multiple answers to do what you ask. I have an example of subscribing to an RSS feed at http://iseeIsay.editthispage.com/RSS_feeds If it's not exactly right for you at least it's a start. The knowledge is out there. Regards, Gary Secondino Weblog - http://iseeisay.editthispage.com Weblog - http://radio.weblogs.com/0001275/ ------------------------- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 29 15:13:53 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Bob Raiselis) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:13:53 -0400 Subject: Restrict stories to members In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020722081120.01cd3d30@email.wc.cc.va.us> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020722081120.01cd3d30@email.wc.cc.va.us> Message-ID: <20020729141354.20291@pop2.valley.net> Is there a way to restict the viewing of stories to members? (I know that you can restrict the site to editors only) Can I make it so that new users cannot join the site without a managing editor adding them? thanks. Bob From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 29 15:15:52 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Klausjuergen Heinrich) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:15:52 +0200 Subject: Restrict stories to members Message-ID: Da ich bis zum 16. August 2002 im Urlaub bin, kann ich leider erst dann = auf diese Nachricht reagieren. In dringenden F=E4llen mailen Sie bitte an: newmedia@donau-uni.ac.at oder rufen Sie: +43-2732-893 2501 From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Jul 29 15:18:21 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:18:21 +0000 Subject: Restrict stories to members Message-ID: <20020729141821.CDXV16050.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@[10.137.100.61]> > > From: Bob Raiselis > Date: 2002/07/29 Mon PM 02:13:53 GMT > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Subject: Restrict stories to members > > Is there a way to restict the viewing of stories to members? (I know that > you can restrict the site to editors only) > > Can I make it so that new users cannot join the site without a managing > editor adding them? > > thanks. > > Bob Bob, Take the 'Join Now' link off of your pages - and add new members using the Admin page. Re: access to stories. Have a look at 'Access Control' which is part of David Bayly's bayly.root -f ind it here: http://www.baylys.com All the best, Jim