Well, we fixed the bandwidth problem (up from 2Kb to 300Kb), and the problem is still there. Not as often (4 out of 5 rather than 9 out of 10), but hardly less frustrating. Ideas? Now I'm *really* flummoxed. doc -- =========================================== Doc Searls http://www.searls.com doc@ssc.com http://www.linuxjournal.com