From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Nov 3 13:22:01 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ken Dow) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:22:01 -0500 Subject: tcp connection error In-Reply-To: <20021028041723.AB010EB61@lists.userland.com> Message-ID: <3CD4C1C4-EF2F-11D6-B489-000A27E10AFE@KenDow.Com> How is your port forwarding being done? http://frontier-osx.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$387#389 Sounds like you configured it the first time but haven't done so since restarting. > Everything was working when I installed Frontier; however, after the > machine was restarted (impolitely), when attempting to connect to Manila, > users get the following error: > > "Can't open stream because TCP/IP error code - 3260 - connection refused" -- Ken Asking a working writer what he feels about critics is like asking a lamp post what he feels about dogs. - John Osborne From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Nov 3 17:04:04 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Tim Fox) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:04:04 -0700 Subject: tcp connection error In-Reply-To: <3CD4C1C4-EF2F-11D6-B489-000A27E10AFE@KenDow.Com> References: <3CD4C1C4-EF2F-11D6-B489-000A27E10AFE@KenDow.Com> Message-ID: Manila-Newbies@userland.com writes: >How is your port forwarding being done? > >http://frontier-osx.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$387#389 > >Sounds like you configured it the first time but haven't done so since >restarting. > >> Everything was working when I installed Frontier; however, after the >> machine was restarted (impolitely), when attempting to connect to >Manila, >> users get the following error: >> >> "Can't open stream because TCP/IP error code - 3260 - connection >refused" > >-- >Ken > >Asking a working writer what he feels about critics is like asking a lamp >post what he feels about dogs. >- John Osborne > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks for your response. I have since found in the Frontier OS X FAQ (http://frontier-osx.userland.com/directory/364/community/~446~) the solution to my port farwarding problem. I guess, for now, I'll just remember to run the userland.portForward (80, 8080) script after reboot. Thanks, again! Tim -iii-< From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 4 20:33:11 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Lawrence Lee) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:33:11 -0800 Subject: viewRssBox in Frontier9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002501c28441$6b786c30$6401a8c0@buntzen> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C283FE.5D552C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jack, Can you try updating your Frontier.root and retry, we re-released a script that was missing that caused the viewRssBox not to update properly. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com] On Behalf Of Jack F.Mancilla Sent: October 28, 2002 8:48 PM To: Frontier-server Frontier; Manila-Newbies userland Subject: viewRssBox in Frontier9 . Hello Since updating to Frontier 9 I noticed that my viewRssBox no longer works. When I checked the Macro information it says. ... url is a string, the url of a RSS 0.90, 0.91, 0.92 or file. I looked at my current rss feed and after updating radio, the feed is ... - - How can I go back to 0.92 or what can I do to get this working again? ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C283FE.5D552C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi=20 Jack,
 
Can=20 you try updating your Frontier.root and retry, we re-released a script = that was=20 missing that caused the viewRssBox not to update = properly.
 
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Hello

Since updating to = Frontier=20 9 I noticed that my viewRssBox no longer works.

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I looked at my current rss = feed and=20 after updating radio, the feed is = ...

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How=20 can I go back to 0.92 or what can I do to get this working=20 again? ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C283FE.5D552C30-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 4 22:41:57 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Bellows) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:41:57 -0500 Subject: Default Alignment Message-ID: <5E31DD77D99CD511B8BC00D0B7B7366FA08E49@HURRICANE> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C28453.61B81080 Content-Type: text/plain The Discussion Group messages on my site are centered. Although I can highlight the text and then left align them, it would be much easier to have them left aligned by default. Can this be done? Scott H. Bellows Dir. Academic Tech. 305.460.2101 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C28453.61B81080 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Discussion Group messages on my site are = centered.  Although I can highlight the = text and then left align them, it would be much easier to have them left aligned by = default.  Can this be = done?

 

Scott  = H. Bellows

Dir. Academic = Tech.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C28453.61B81080-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 4 22:53:50 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:53:50 EST Subject: unwanted mail Message-ID: <90.2e784e80.2af8547e@aol.com> --part1_90.2e784e80.2af8547e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why do I keep getting this mail??? --part1_90.2e784e80.2af8547e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why do I keep getting this mail??? --part1_90.2e784e80.2af8547e_boundary-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 4 23:08:40 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dan Geiser) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:08:40 -0500 Subject: unwanted mail References: <90.2e784e80.2af8547e@aol.com> Message-ID: Why do I keep getting your e-mail about why are getting this mail? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:53 PM Subject: unwanted mail > Why do I keep getting this mail??? > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Sun Nov 3 16:44:16 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:44:16 -0700 Subject: tcp connection error In-Reply-To: <20021028041723.AB010EB61@lists.userland.com> Message-ID: <7DE4A15A-EF4B-11D6-940D-003065D606C2@cliffhanger.com> --Apple-Mail-4-52598304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed It sounds to me like the machine never had port forwarding restarted. On os x you generally need to forward port 80 to a port that Frontier is allowed to run (In os x apps not running as root are restricted to listening on ports above 1024) usually 8000 or 8080. So you need to turn on port forwarding again. There are a few ways to do this see the FAQ http://frontier-osx.userland.com/directory/364/community/~446~ or email me and I can probably help. Sam D Sam D On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 10:36 PM, tfox@rfsd.k12.co.us wrote: > I'm using Frontier 8.0.5;Macintoshversion 16.2. on a Blue G4 with OS X > 10.2.1. > > Everything was working when I installed Frontier; however, after the > machine was restarted (impolitely), when attempting to connect to > Manila, > users get the following error: > > "Can't open stream because TCP/IP error code - 3260 - connection > refused" > > Any ideas? > > Tim > -iii-< > > > ======= See a new experiment: a dad and his two girls http://scidzone.editthispage.com join, see and share...... ======= --Apple-Mail-4-52598304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII It sounds to me like the machine never had port forwarding restarted. On os x you generally need to forward port 80 to a port that Frontier is allowed to run (In os x apps not running as root are restricted to listening on ports above 1024) usually 8000 or 8080. So you need to turn on port forwarding again. There are a few ways to do this see the FAQ http://frontier-osx.userland.com/directory/364/community/~446~ or email me and I can probably help. Sam D Sam D On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 10:36 PM, tfox@rfsd.k12.co.us wrote: I'm using Frontier 8.0.5;Macintoshversion 16.2. on a Blue G4 with OS X 10.2.1. Everything was working when I installed Frontier; however, after the machine was restarted (impolitely), when attempting to connect to Manila, users get the following error: "Can't open stream because TCP/IP error code - 3260 - connection refused" Any ideas? Tim -iii-<< ======= See a new experiment: a dad and his two girls http://scidzone.editthispage.com join, see and share...... ======= --Apple-Mail-4-52598304-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 4 23:13:18 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:13:18 -0700 Subject: unwanted mail In-Reply-To: <90.2e784e80.2af8547e@aol.com> Message-ID: <01434EEE-F04B-11D6-94A3-003065D606C2@cliffhanger.com> --Apple-Mail-2-162340372 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Because you are subscribed to the list. Look at the message headers where you will see the following List-Unsubscribe: , Send an email to manila-newbies-request@userland.com with the subject of "unsubscribe" (no quote marks) and you should stop receiving emails Sam D On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 03:53 PM, MHowell436@aol.com wrote: > Why do I keep getting this mail??? > ======= See a new experiment: a dad and his two girls http://scidzone.editthispage.com join, see and share...... ======= --Apple-Mail-2-162340372 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Because you are subscribed to the list. Look at the message headers where you will see the following List-Unsubscribe: <, < Send an email to manila-newbies-request@userland.com with the subject of "unsubscribe" (no quote marks) and you should stop receiving emails Sam D On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 03:53 PM, MHowell436@aol.com wrote: ArialWhy do I keep getting this mail??? ======= See a new experiment: a dad and his two girls http://scidzone.editthispage.com join, see and share...... ======= --Apple-Mail-2-162340372-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 6 16:05:45 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Scott Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:05:45 -0600 Subject: unwanted mail In-Reply-To: <90.2e784e80.2af8547e@aol.com> References: <90.2e784e80.2af8547e@aol.com> Message-ID: <0961689336.20021106100545@tipro.org> Because you, like myself, have forgotten how to unsubscribe. ===8<==============Original message text=============== Why do I keep getting this mail??? ===8<===========End of original message text=========== From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 6 18:42:53 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (kthomas) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:42:53 -0600 Subject: navigation links In-Reply-To: <83F2C6D7-F11D-11D6-8936-000393B4ABF2@siu.edu> Message-ID: <8F43F0C6-F1B7-11D6-B825-000393B4ABF2@siu.edu> I want to edit my nav links. I have a client who wants to add a LOT of nav. links and we really need to create headers between the links. I'd like to keep everything in the "Perfs-advanced-XML navigation box". The tag below will get me a header but I was wondering if it were possible to apply a style or a simple bold <.b> tag to the item name. Maybe I need a totally different tag. <.item name="Alpha's Places" pagename="" /> http://apm.weblogger.com/ oh, I'd rather not go to a graphic for menu items as I'm lazy, doing this for almost nothing, and the items are sure to change. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! /kelly thomas From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 6 19:48:24 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:48:24 -0600 Subject: navigation links In-Reply-To: <8F43F0C6-F1B7-11D6-B825-000393B4ABF2@siu.edu> References: <83F2C6D7-F11D-11D6-8936-000393B4ABF2@siu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106134045.00a5bae0@pop.sigecom.net> You sound like you MIGHT be like me. I want my stuff to look nice, but I do not want to do a lot of work massaging my links. I want to figure out how to do stuff that I can then show other people without inflicting on them as large a learning curve as I went through myself. If you can identify with my attitude, then you might want to take a look at what www.blogrolling.com does for you, which I discussed in my Radio Weblog yesterday http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/categories/eRadioIdeas/2002/11/05.html#a426 I have not yet succeeded in accessing www.upsaid.com which I mentioned in a later post http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/categories/eRadioIdeas/2002/11/06.html#a431 My understanding is that the www.blogrolling.com will work on just about any weblogging software, Manila or Radio or any other Blog Software provider. You do not need to edit your nav links. You get a nice interface that adds them as easily as you add favorite bookmarks to your browser, once you have copied their code. This is a free service. >I want to edit my nav links. I have a client who wants to add a LOT of >nav. links and we really need to create headers between the links. I'd >like to keep everything in the "Perfs-advanced-XML navigation box". The >tag below will get me a header but I was wondering if it were possible to >apply a style or a simple bold <.b> tag to the item name. Maybe I need a >totally different tag. > > <.item name="Alpha's Places" pagename="" /> > >http://apm.weblogger.com/ > >oh, I'd rather not go to a graphic for menu items as I'm lazy, doing this >for almost nothing, and the items are sure to change. Any help is appreciated. > >Thanks! > >/kelly thomas - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's diary http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 6 21:32:43 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (kthomas) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:32:43 -0600 Subject: navigation links In-Reply-To: <20021106200002.8258.71756.Mailman@lists.userland.com> Message-ID: <48D244A2-F1CF-11D6-A207-000393B4ABF2@siu.edu> Very cool tool, I'd never played with that. How can I add add headers between links? I can't I guess unless I use multiple lists, but I'm only allowed 1 as a freebie and 10 as paid. (client needs many 3-5) but most of my links are to the client site are NOT blogs and I don't want to be publicly humiliated cause I used multiple lists on the same page to link to non-blogs. "..items other than blogs and that isn't in the charter. Lists of recently watched movies is not what this site is aiming to provide. And anyone caught circumventing the restrictions by signing up for another account will be blacklisted and more than likely publicly humiliated" Any use I would have would NOT be to link to anybodies blog. (well, maybe Dave's :-) Good solution I might like but it looks to me like using a Sherman tank to swat a fly. other ideas accepted. :-) /kelly > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:48:24 -0600 > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > From: Al Mac > Subject: Re: navigation links > Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > > You sound like you MIGHT be like me. > I want my stuff to look nice, but I do not want to do a lot of work > massaging my links. > I want to figure out how to do stuff that I can then show other people > without inflicting on them as large a learning curve as I went through > myself. > If you can identify with my attitude, then you might want to take a > look at > what www.blogrolling.com does for you, which I discussed in my Radio > Weblog > yesterday > http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/categories/eRadioIdeas/2002/11/ > 05.html#a426 > I have not yet succeeded in accessing www.upsaid.com which I mentioned > in a > later post > http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/categories/eRadioIdeas/2002/11/ > 06.html#a431 > My understanding is that the www.blogrolling.com will work on just > about > any weblogging software, Manila or Radio or any other Blog Software > provider. > > You do not need to edit your nav links. > You get a nice interface that adds them as easily as you add favorite > bookmarks to your browser, once you have copied their code. This is a > free > service. > >> I want to edit my nav links. I have a client who wants to add a LOT of >> nav. links and we really need to create headers between the links. I'd >> like to keep everything in the "Perfs-advanced-XML navigation box". >> The >> tag below will get me a header but I was wondering if it were >> possible to >> apply a style or a simple bold <.b> tag to the item name. Maybe I >> need a >> totally different tag. >> >> <.item name="Alpha's Places" pagename="" /> >> >> http://apm.weblogger.com/ >> >> oh, I'd rather not go to a graphic for menu items as I'm lazy, doing >> this >> for almost nothing, and the items are sure to change. Any help is >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> >> /kelly thomas > > - > Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) > Al's diary http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ > Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ > > > > > > > End of Manila-Newbies Digest > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Nov 7 01:29:31 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ashok Nath) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:29:31 +0800 Subject: Manila-Newbies digest, Vol 1 #87 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <20021106200002.8258.71756.Mailman@lists.userland.com> Message-ID: This is illegal spamming. Please unsubscribe me// -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of manila-newbies-request@userland.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 4:00 AM To: manila-newbies@userland.com Subject: Manila-Newbies digest, Vol 1 #87 - 3 msgs Send Manila-Newbies mailing list submissions to manila-newbies@userland.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.userland.com/mailman/listinfo/manila-newbies or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to manila-newbies-request@userland.com You can reach the person managing the list at manila-newbies-admin@userland.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Manila-Newbies digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: unwanted mail (Scott Anderson) 2. navigation links (kthomas) 3. Re: navigation links (Al Mac) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:05:45 -0600 From: Scott Anderson To: "MHowell436@aol.com" Subject: Re: unwanted mail Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Because you, like myself, have forgotten how to unsubscribe. ===8<==============Original message text=============== Why do I keep getting this mail??? ===8<===========End of original message text=========== --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:42:53 -0600 Subject: navigation links From: kthomas To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com I want to edit my nav links. I have a client who wants to add a LOT of nav. links and we really need to create headers between the links. I'd like to keep everything in the "Perfs-advanced-XML navigation box". The tag below will get me a header but I was wondering if it were possible to apply a style or a simple bold <.b> tag to the item name. Maybe I need a totally different tag. <.item name="Alpha's Places" pagename="" /> http://apm.weblogger.com/ oh, I'd rather not go to a graphic for menu items as I'm lazy, doing this for almost nothing, and the items are sure to change. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! /kelly thomas --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:48:24 -0600 To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com From: Al Mac Subject: Re: navigation links Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com You sound like you MIGHT be like me. I want my stuff to look nice, but I do not want to do a lot of work massaging my links. I want to figure out how to do stuff that I can then show other people without inflicting on them as large a learning curve as I went through myself. If you can identify with my attitude, then you might want to take a look at what www.blogrolling.com does for you, which I discussed in my Radio Weblog yesterday http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/categories/eRadioIdeas/2002/11/05.html#a426 I have not yet succeeded in accessing www.upsaid.com which I mentioned in a later post http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/categories/eRadioIdeas/2002/11/06.html#a431 My understanding is that the www.blogrolling.com will work on just about any weblogging software, Manila or Radio or any other Blog Software provider. You do not need to edit your nav links. You get a nice interface that adds them as easily as you add favorite bookmarks to your browser, once you have copied their code. This is a free service. >I want to edit my nav links. I have a client who wants to add a LOT of >nav. links and we really need to create headers between the links. I'd >like to keep everything in the "Perfs-advanced-XML navigation box". The >tag below will get me a header but I was wondering if it were possible to >apply a style or a simple bold <.b> tag to the item name. Maybe I need a >totally different tag. > > <.item name="Alpha's Places" pagename="" /> > >http://apm.weblogger.com/ > >oh, I'd rather not go to a graphic for menu items as I'm lazy, doing this >for almost nothing, and the items are sure to change. Any help is appreciated. > >Thanks! > >/kelly thomas - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's diary http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ End of Manila-Newbies Digest From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 13 16:03:30 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Jim Byrne) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:03:30 +0000 Subject: list of archived news? Message-ID: I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? Thanks, Jim -- Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the Web. Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible Website Management Training. The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 6 19:58:24 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:58:24 -0500 Subject: navigation links In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106134045.00a5bae0@pop.sigecom.net> References: <8F43F0C6-F1B7-11D6-B825-000393B4ABF2@siu.edu> <83F2C6D7-F11D-11D6-8936-000393B4ABF2@siu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021106145600.01deb9f8@email.wcc.vccs.edu> Another approach would be to use a message include using the includeMessage macro - http://macros.userland.com/basic/includeMessage Just put something like {includeMessage(5)} In your template where the links are to go. Then that is just editable as a regular message (wysiwyg editor and all). David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 6 22:23:28 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:23:28 -0700 Subject: navigation links In-Reply-To: <48D244A2-F1CF-11D6-A207-000393B4ABF2@siu.edu> Message-ID: <5FC44787-F1D6-11D6-B173-003065D606C2@cliffhanger.com> One of the things that I do when I want to have links that are multiple sections and give me editing ease it to use the includeMessage macro (see http://macros.userland.com/basic/includeMessage ) in the template then when the managing editor is logged in they see edit buttons at the bottom of each menu chunk (see http://www.cs.arizona.edu/ for an example of the output) then each message is a simple set of links (in this case they are short cuts so just quoted text) then the macro call is wrapped in a div tag to give the look that I want. Using the blogroll method if you want to have headers (upper level items in the outline) in bold just use the css that is accessible in the output of the blogroll macro. Sam D > > ======== Take a hired hand into the wild "Frontier" support and scripting for "UserLand Frontier" and "Radio UserLand" email me at sam@teachesme.comt From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 13 16:54:45 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (David Carter-Tod) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:54:45 -0500 Subject: list of archived news? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021113115255.03705838@email.wcc.vccs.edu> At 04:03 PM 11/13/2002 +0000, Jim Byrne wrote: >I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of >a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not >came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to >have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? I'm sure metadata.root would have something, e.g. http://zelotes.ent.iastate.edu/metadata/docs/querymacro David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 13 18:31:29 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:31:29 -0600 Subject: list of archived news? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113122149.00a54710@pop.sigecom.net> Several ideas come to mind, of getting something very similar. If you can afford to pay $200.00, Bryan Bell of weblogger.com probably can create a template just for you, that has everything you need. He is obviously very prolific at dreaming up template variations. Look at some of the different templates, where you can populate stuff down the side. You could have a story called ARCHIVES which would be added to the discussion group or cool places links, then that story would be the actual links to archived news. I posted something here recently in another thread about blogrolling link services. Since then I have posted a story on my weblog that provides links to such places. http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/10/13/linkServices.html Most of these services are for us to be cross-linked with other weblogs, but if you used blogrolling.com treating each of your archived entries as separate web sites, you could get pretty close to this. It would probably be at the side rather than the bottom. >I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of >a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not >came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to >have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? > >Thanks, >Jim >-- >Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian >University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's diary http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Nov 14 06:18:18 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Melva Nath) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:18:18 +0800 Subject: Help In-Reply-To: <20021113200003.11685.83552.Mailman@lists.userland.com> Message-ID: Please remove me from your mailing list. Thank you, melva@optionsinfo.com -----Original Message----- From: manila-newbies-admin@userland.com [mailto:manila-newbies-admin@userland.com]On Behalf Of manila-newbies-request@userland.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:00 AM To: manila-newbies@userland.com Subject: Manila-Newbies digest, Vol 1 #89 - 5 msgs Send Manila-Newbies mailing list submissions to manila-newbies@userland.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.userland.com/mailman/listinfo/manila-newbies or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to manila-newbies-request@userland.com You can reach the person managing the list at manila-newbies-admin@userland.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Manila-Newbies digest..." Today's Topics: 1. list of archived news? (Jim Byrne) 2. Re: navigation links (David Carter-Tod) 3. Re: navigation links (Sam DeVore) 4. Re: list of archived news? (David Carter-Tod) 5. Re: list of archived news? (Al Mac) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:03:30 +0000 Subject: list of archived news? From: Jim Byrne To: Manila-Newbies Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? Thanks, Jim -- Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the Web. Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible Website Management Training. The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:58:24 -0500 To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com From: David Carter-Tod Subject: Re: navigation links Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Another approach would be to use a message include using the includeMessage macro - http://macros.userland.com/basic/includeMessage Just put something like {includeMessage(5)} In your template where the links are to go. Then that is just editable as a regular message (wysiwyg editor and all). David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:23:28 -0700 Subject: Re: navigation links From: Sam DeVore To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com One of the things that I do when I want to have links that are multiple sections and give me editing ease it to use the includeMessage macro (see http://macros.userland.com/basic/includeMessage ) in the template then when the managing editor is logged in they see edit buttons at the bottom of each menu chunk (see http://www.cs.arizona.edu/ for an example of the output) then each message is a simple set of links (in this case they are short cuts so just quoted text) then the macro call is wrapped in a div tag to give the look that I want. Using the blogroll method if you want to have headers (upper level items in the outline) in bold just use the css that is accessible in the output of the blogroll macro. Sam D > > ======== Take a hired hand into the wild "Frontier" support and scripting for "UserLand Frontier" and "Radio UserLand" email me at sam@teachesme.comt --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:54:45 -0500 To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com From: David Carter-Tod Subject: Re: list of archived news? Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com At 04:03 PM 11/13/2002 +0000, Jim Byrne wrote: >I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of >a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not >came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to >have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? I'm sure metadata.root would have something, e.g. http://zelotes.ent.iastate.edu/metadata/docs/querymacro David -- David Carter-Tod Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., Wytheville, VA 24382 (wk) 276-223-4784 http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ Online certificate in web site design: http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:31:29 -0600 To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com From: Al Mac Subject: Re: list of archived news? Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Several ideas come to mind, of getting something very similar. If you can afford to pay $200.00, Bryan Bell of weblogger.com probably can create a template just for you, that has everything you need. He is obviously very prolific at dreaming up template variations. Look at some of the different templates, where you can populate stuff down the side. You could have a story called ARCHIVES which would be added to the discussion group or cool places links, then that story would be the actual links to archived news. I posted something here recently in another thread about blogrolling link services. Since then I have posted a story on my weblog that provides links to such places. http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/10/13/linkServices.html Most of these services are for us to be cross-linked with other weblogs, but if you used blogrolling.com treating each of your archived entries as separate web sites, you could get pretty close to this. It would probably be at the side rather than the bottom. >I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of >a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not >came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to >have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? > >Thanks, >Jim >-- >Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian >University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's diary http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ End of Manila-Newbies Digest From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 13 21:39:17 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (James Byrne) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:39:17 +0000 Subject: list of archived news? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021113115255.03705838@email.wcc.vccs.edu> Message-ID: Thanks David, That was my first thought - but I didn't have access to it on this particular Manila site (hopefully I will soon). Just thought I'd find out if there was something baked-in to Manila I could use. All the best, Jim on 13/11/02 4:54 pm, David Carter-Tod at wccartd@wcc.vccs.edu wrote: > At 04:03 PM 11/13/2002 +0000, Jim Byrne wrote: >> I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of >> a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not >> came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to >> have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? > > I'm sure metadata.root would have something, e.g. > http://zelotes.ent.iastate.edu/metadata/docs/querymacro > > David > -- > David Carter-Tod > > > Instructional Technologist/Distance Education Contact > Wytheville Community College, 1000 E. Main St., > Wytheville, VA 24382 > (wk) 276-223-4784 > http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/ > > Online certificate in web site design: > http://www.wcc.vccs.edu/websiteDesign > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Wed Nov 13 21:48:46 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (James Byrne) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:48:46 +0000 Subject: list of archived news? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113122149.00a54710@pop.sigecom.net> Message-ID: Thanks for your thoughts Al, I think maybe I wasn't clear what I was after - I want to have a list of the archived news from the same Manila site (beyond the number of days specified in the prefs) - not from other sites. (I can afford to pay $200 for Manila hosting, and I've no reason to think weblogger.com isn't a good service, but as far as I am aware they don't provide the ManilaFixer plugin which is critical to the way I work.) All the best, Jim on 13/11/02 6:31 pm, Al Mac at macwheel99@sigecom.net wrote: > Several ideas come to mind, of getting something very similar. > > If you can afford to pay $200.00, Bryan Bell of weblogger.com probably can > create a template just for you, that has everything you need. He is > obviously very prolific at dreaming up template variations. > Look at some of the different templates, where you can populate stuff down > the side. > > You could have a story called ARCHIVES which would be added to the > discussion group or cool places links, then that story would be the actual > links to archived news. > > I posted something here recently in another thread about blogrolling link > services. Since then I have posted a story on my weblog that provides > links to such places. > http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/10/13/linkServices.html > > Most of these services are for us to be cross-linked with other weblogs, > but if you used blogrolling.com treating each of your archived entries as > separate web sites, you could get pretty close to this. It would probably > be at the side rather than the bottom. > >> I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of >> a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not >> came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to >> have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? >> >> Thanks, >> Jim >> -- >> Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian >> University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 > > Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) > Al's diary http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ > Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ > > > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Nov 14 07:33:11 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:33:11 -0600 Subject: list of archived news? In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113122149.00a54710@pop.sigecom.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114012641.00a4bb50@pop.sigecom.net> --=====================_16108319==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Just checking You have been to the preferences and cranked up the # days and they still not enough for you. You have been to where you can get more bandwidth and sub-domains where you can have several sites clustered in the same account. http://store.weblogger.com/addOns - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's diary http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ --=====================_16108319==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Just checking
You have been to the preferences and cranked up the # days and they still not enough for you.
You have been to where you can get more bandwidth and sub-domains where you can have several sites clustered in the same account.  http://store.weblogger.com/addOns

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--=====================_16108319==_.ALT-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Nov 15 12:12:09 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Jim Byrne) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:12:09 +0000 Subject: CommentIt plugin news Message-ID: Re: Changes to CommentIt >From now on CommentIt will be released as part of David Baylys' Bayly.root (http://www.baylys.com:8080/help/); it is no longer being released as a stand-alone plugin (although in effect once you have installed bayly.root it still appears as a separate plugin in the plugins page). David has been the sole developer on CommentIt for such a long time now that this makes sense. This change will make it easier for users to obtain the most up-to-date version of CommentIt; Bayly.root uses the root updates mechanism built into Frontier. I developed the original CommentIt script in 1998 as a cgi for the classic Frontier 'Website Framework'. I'm pleased that David has continued to develop CommentIt and turned it into a powerful plugin for Manila users. Get the latest version of CommentIt from http://www.baylys.com:8080/help/. All the best, Jim -- Jim Byrne Project Director, The Making Connections Unit, Glasgow Caledonian University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893 Everything you need to know about publishing accessible information on the Web. Services: Website Accessibility Audits, Accessible Web design, Accessible Website Management Training. The Making Connections Unit: http://www.mcu.org.uk/ Scottish Disability Information Mailing list: http://www.mcu.org.uk/mailinglists/ From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Nov 15 20:08:41 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dean Landsman) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:08:41 -0500 Subject: virus warning - (ScanMail certified attachments are virus free.) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_076A_01C28CB8.E21281D0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Members of this list may receive an email with the subject line: CELLPADDING. Be forewarned, it contains a virus. Our server prevented it from coming in, but an info e-mail was sent in its stead. A probable cause is someone on the list getting attacked by a worm that collected an address book, and or addresses of any stored e-mails. You may recall a post to this list by the CELLPADDING subject name a while ago. Here's the sender info: Received: from dialup-63.208.242.48.dial1.losangeles1.level3.net ([63.208.242.48] helo=Gormox) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Ca59-0006WG-00 for dean@land-com.net; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:35:59 -0800 From: sales Forewarned is forearmed: don't open the CELLPADDING e-mail! --Dean Landsman ------=_NextPart_000_076A_01C28CB8.E21281D0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: attachment From: "sales" To: Subject: CELLPADDING ScanMail detected and cleaned a virus from this email message. Some attachments might be missing. A notification was sent to the sender. Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:35:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on NYWEBSRV2/Venture(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 11/15/2002 01:36:28 AM,Serialize by POP3 Server on NYWEBSRV2/Venture(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 11/15/2002 01:37:53 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_076A_01C28CB8.E21281D0-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 18 01:59:24 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Keith Broadbent) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 19:59:24 -0600 Subject: printer link Message-ID: <003101c28ea6$1e6efa20$6701a8c0@kb8200dell> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C28E73.D395D370 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002E_01C28E73.D395D370" ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C28E73.D395D370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I put printer friendly link on bottom of pages http://www.keithblog.net ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C28E73.D395D370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How do I put printer friendly = link on=20 bottom of pages
http://www.keithblog.net ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C28E73.D395D370-- ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C28E73.D395D370 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Keith Broadbent.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Keith Broadbent.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Broadbent;Keith FN:Keith Broadbent TEL;HOME;VOICE:636-240-8603 TEL;CELL;VOICE:314-369-6477 TEL;HOME;FAX:636-294-o458 ADR;HOME:;;1333 Wagon Wheel;O'Fallon;Mo.;63366 LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:1333 Wagon = Wheel=3D0D=3D0AO'Fallon, Mo. 63366 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:kbroad@charter.net REV:20021118T015924Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C28E73.D395D370-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 18 02:32:00 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Sam DeVore) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 19:32:00 -0700 Subject: printer link In-Reply-To: <003101c28ea6$1e6efa20$6701a8c0@kb8200dell> Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-4--850021883 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed you can add {printFriendlyLink()} to the template see http://macros.userland.com/basic/printFriendlyLink for more information Sam D On Sunday, November 17, 2002, at 06:59 PM, Keith Broadbent wrote: > How do I put printer friendly link on bottom of pages > http://www.keithblog.net > ======== Take a hired hand into the wild "Frontier" support and scripting for "UserLand Frontier" and "Radio UserLand" email me at sam@teachesme.com --Apple-Mail-4--850021883 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII you can add {printFriendlyLink()} to the template see http://macros.userland.com/basic/printFriendlyLink for more information Sam D On Sunday, November 17, 2002, at 06:59 PM, Keith Broadbent wrote: ArialHow do I put printer friendly link on bottom of pages Arial1999,1999,FFFFhttp://www.keithblog.net < Helvetica======== Take a hired hand into the wild "Frontier" support and scripting for "UserLand Frontier" and "Radio UserLand" email me at sam@teachesme.com --Apple-Mail-4--850021883-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 18 02:42:56 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ryan Hale) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:42:56 -0600 Subject: printer link Message-ID: <200211172042.AA1110507604@levistable.com> Hi Keith - Check this out. Let me know if there is anything you don't follow... http://macros.userland.com/basic/printFriendlyLink By the way, I checked out your blog today. Looks like it is coming along! Really encourage you to continue with it regularly because - if nothing else - it has been great therapy for me! Just a wonderful thing to be able to express feelings in print... Ryan ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Keith Broadbent" Reply-To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 19:59:24 -0600 >How do I put printer friendly link on bottom of pages >http://www.keithblog.net > > -- Ryan Hale 636.561.3403 ryan.hale@levistable.com http://www.seventytwo.org http://www.ryanjhale.com http://www.levistable.com -- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 18 23:29:45 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Tom McKenna) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:29:45 -0900 Subject: Frontier Crashes Message-ID: <3DD977E8.94B4A4F6@uas.alaska.edu> Hello, We've now made the big leap to offering courses on our Frontier server. Unfortunately, though, we're still experiencing crashes that seem to be related the the ability or inability of our site to handle subscriptions. We're running Frontier 9 on a MacOSX server. When we re-start Frontier, we often receive a number of subscription-related error messages like "Can't update the root because "The server, updates.userland.com, returned error code 4. Can't send you an update because the database "prefs.root" doesn't return subscriptions...." Could you please advise? I believe I have all subscriptions enabled on our installation of Fontier. However, we do have portforwarding enabled, in case that factors into the troubleshooting at all. Many thanks for any insights. Tom McKenna University of Alaska Southeast Professional Education Center Juneau, Alaska From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Nov 14 17:52:38 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Manila-Newbies@userland.com) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:52:38 GMT Subject: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <200211141752.gAEHqc9E022417@mail.snowcrest.net> I am experiencing similiar problems with 127.0.0.1. When I try to send a msg it u turns into the in box and I get error msgs. Tech support has been no help. I keep running into a stone wall and end up chasing my tail. Has anyone ever solved this problem? Ken Rogers PO Box 1588 Weaverville, CA 96093 --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Nov 14 18:39:39 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Eric Soroos) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:39:39 -0800 Subject: list of archived news? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <73030119.1174852117@[4.42.179.151]> On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:03:30 +0000 in message , Jim Byrne wrote: > I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of > a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not > came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to > have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? > Does http://yousite/news/viewDepartment$departmentName work for you? How about {viewNewsItems (n=10, department=nil, newsItemTemplate=nil, flEditLinks=true, maxDate=nil, minDate=nil, flUseNewsDayTemplate=false)}? eric From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Thu Nov 21 21:34:33 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Kirk Heims) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:34:33 -0800 Subject: WYSIWYG editing tool menu appears differently in different themes References: <20021119200002.17798.9383.Mailman@lists.userland.com> Message-ID: <000f01c291a5$c8515540$3200a8c0@KIRKLAPTOP> Why doesn't the complete WYSIWYG editing tool bar show up in some themes? For example, the Text editing box doesn't show the image mapped icons and commands in the 'orderly boxes' theme, yet the script appears to be the same. Does anybody know how to amend this? Thank you. Kirk Heims Redding, California kirk@ceronline.com From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Tue Nov 19 15:04:22 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Glasgow West End) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:04:22 +0000 Subject: list of archived news? Message-ID: <20021119150422.UMPF28295.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@[10.137.100.63]> Thanks Eric, That did the job nicely. All the best, Jim > > From: Eric Soroos > Date: 2002/11/14 Thu PM 06:39:39 GMT > To: Manila-Newbies@userland.com > Subject: Re: list of archived news? > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:03:30 +0000 in message , Jim Byrne wrote: > > I'm looking for a way to show a list of archived news items at the bottom of > > a Manila site. I have had a look on the Manila Newbies site - but have not > > came across a way of getting simple list of archived news - I don't want to > > have a calendar on the page. Any ideas or pointers? > > > > Does http://yousite/news/viewDepartment$departmentName work for you? > > How about {viewNewsItems (n=10, department=nil, newsItemTemplate=nil, flEditLinks=true, maxDate=nil, minDate=nil, flUseNewsDayTemplate=false)}? > > eric > > > > From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Nov 22 11:06:10 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Neville Hillyer) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:06:10 +0000 Subject: html comment tags Message-ID: >I can't seem to get comments not to show up in the text of a page, even >though I have made the !-- tag legal. Any other trick? any other tag I >can use to have Manila ignore a comment i want to leave in the edit box? Bob By accident I found your message above. I am not sure if this helps but some years ago I published the statements after this email. On an unrelated matter - do you know how to contact the owners of QPQ? Neville Some early QPQ servers had a bug which removed data between quotation marks within comments. This made it difficult to hide items within a comment tag. A reasonable workaround for these servers was to use a JavaScript tag instead. Incidentally putting a 'return' at the end of every ssi and html page prevented these servers issuing spurious characters. From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Mon Nov 25 18:35:13 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Ashish Bandi) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 12:35:13 -0600 Subject: New to Manila Message-ID: <004701c294b1$64561300$95ec0781@DFN5M911> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_D8Fc4cyrvGMkl3gv/H2sGA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi I am a new user of Manila. I don't know if this is stupid to ask but I would appreciate if anyone could help me with it. I want your help to figure out how do I start building my site with Manila. Thanks, Ashish. --Boundary_(ID_D8Fc4cyrvGMkl3gv/H2sGA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi
 
I am a new user of Manila. I don't know if this is stupid to ask but I would appreciate if anyone could help me with it. I want your help to figure out how do I start building my site with Manila.
 
Thanks,
Ashish.
--Boundary_(ID_D8Fc4cyrvGMkl3gv/H2sGA)-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Nov 29 06:27:49 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Al Mac) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 00:27:49 -0600 Subject: New to Manila In-Reply-To: <004701c294b1$64561300$95ec0781@DFN5M911> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021128235713.00a80af0@pop.sigecom.net> --=====================_4404779==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where are you located? I am sure that several people already familiar with= =20 Manila would be willing to walk you through using it, with a few short=20 phone calls, assuming not extreme long distance. You can get a free Manila site to play around with for 30 days at=20 http://www.weblogger.com/starthere Tip: leave the password field not filled in at first, because you will=20 find that some inputs are invalid, but if you do every other field, it can= =20 replace your invalid with something valid that you not want, so if you wait= =20 until you see what is accepted before putting in your starting password,=20 you avoid situation like me creating sites I did not want (I wanted a=20 combination of digits and special characters that it would not allow) There's lots of documentation on it, starting with that which comes from=20 the suppliers of the software. Check out the following examples: http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/09/12/manilaPasswordChangeHow.= html Here is my directory of 100 people who have done documentation for Radio -= =20 some of them have also done documentation on Manila http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/08/23/radioDocSources.html Userland's Manila Users Guide http://manilanewbies.userland.com/usersguide/ Once you have your Manila site setup, you can get here by clicking on the= HELP. However, when first setting up your site, you have to decide whether you=20 want it to be open to the public to do anything to your site, or if you=20 want to get it ready for the public before you open it to the public ... I= =20 can send you off-list, step by step instructions how to setup your site=20 private (not seen by google etc.) until you have got it looking nice and=20 ready to go public. (I not want to post here because my instructions are a= =20 bit long) Here is outline of topics you might want to consider before you setup your= =20 site, explained why important by what I am offering to send you off list -= =20 which is also on my PRIVATE documentation site, that I started then did=20 almost nothing with =B7 What Capitalization do you want in Name of Site? =B7 Is it Open to Anyone to Join without checking with You? =B7 Is it for your Exclusive Use? =B7 Is it for something in-between? =B7 Is this Editors Only for the First Participants? =B7 What kinds of Editors for which people? =B7 Since your name will be on all posts, do you want some familiar= way=20 that you are referenced ... such as in my case, I could be: Alister William= =20 Macintyre; Al Macintyre; Al Mac; AWM; or some other combination of parts of= =20 my name ... you may want to ask invitees before signing them up how they=20 wish to be known on your site. You might want to review the descriptions of the different kinds of Manila= =20 sites you can setup http://manilanewbies.userland.com/directory/4720/typesOfSites If you have used links on other systems, you might like to review what I=20 have to say about how the stories and short cuts work differently in Radio= =20 vs. Manila http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/10/16/storiesAndShortcuts.html Several people have setup their Manila websites such that other people may= =20 join and participate in a discussion there, which could show you some of=20 what you can do ... they might not want to let you have editor privileges=20 on their sites, but certainly would extend enough so you can see how a lot= =20 of things work. In fact I have a site I have not touched in a while that I= =20 setup with the intention of putting Manila documentation on it, then have=20 posted almost nothing there, as I explored other topics. I guess I could make you a member of that private site, and add a bit more= =20 documentation there, if you not find some other benefactor. One thing you want to be careful about is deleting messages involved in=20 setup, you might think you not need some, but then you can have a broken=20 site because they have functions that are not obvious to beginners. Another thing you want to be careful about is template themes. You might=20 tweak your site to get a bunch of stuff you like, then switch templates,=20 and lose what you tweaked. Basically templates make massive changes to the= =20 preference settings, so in practical terms, a new Manila user needs to= either * Look at all the different templates and pick out the one you like=20 BEFORE you go tweaking with preference settings; * Keep very careful notes on what changes you make to your preferences,= =20 so if you lose stuff you can reconstruct it * SAVE your old Template before switching to a new one >Hi > >I am a new user of Manila. I don't know if this is stupid to ask but I=20 >would appreciate if anyone could help me with it. I want your help to=20 >figure out how do I start building my site with Manila. > >Thanks, >Ashish. - Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora) Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/ Al at home http://ryze.org/view.php?who=3DAl9Mac Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/ --=====================_4404779==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where are you located?  I am sure that several people already familiar with Manila would be willing to walk you through using it, with a few short phone calls, assuming not extreme long distance.

You can get a free Manila site to play around with for 30 days at http://www.weblogger.com/starthere
 Tip: leave the password field not filled in at first, because you will find that some inputs are invalid, but if you do every other field, it can replace your invalid with something valid that you not want, so if you wait until you see what is accepted before putting in your starting password, you avoid situation like me creating sites I did not want (I wanted a combination of digits and special characters that it would not allow)

There's lots of documentation on it, starting with that which comes from the suppliers of the software.  Check out the following examples:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/09/12/mani= laPasswordChangeHow.html

Here is my directory of 100 people who have done documentation for Radio - some of them have also done documentation on Manila
http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/08/23/radi= oDocSources.html

Userland's Manila Users Guide
http://manilanewbies.userland.com/usersguide/
Once you have your Manila site setup, you can get here by clicking on the HELP.

However, when first setting up your site, you have to decide whether you want it to be open to the public to do anything to your site, or if you want to get it ready for the public before you open it to the public ... I can send you off-list, step by step instructions how to setup your site private (not seen by google etc.) until you have got it looking nice and ready to go public.  (I not want to post here because my instructions are a bit long)

Here is outline of topics you might want to consider before you setup your site, explained why important by what I am offering to send you off list - which is also on my PRIVATE documentation site, that I started then did almost nothing with
=B7       What Capitalization do you want in Name of Site?
=B7       Is it Open to Anyone to Join without checking with You?
=B7       Is it for your Exclusive Use?
=B7       Is it for something in-between?
=B7       Is this Editors Only for the First Participants?
=B7       What kinds of Editors for which people?
=B7       Since your name will be on all posts, do you want some familiar way that you are referenced ... such as in my case, I could be: Alister William Macintyre; Al Macintyre; Al Mac; AWM; or some other combination of parts of my name ... you may want to ask invitees before signing them up how they wish to be known on your site.

You might want to review the descriptions of the different kinds of Manila sites you can setup
http://manilanewbies.userland.com/directory/4720/typesOf= Sites

If you have used links on other systems, you might like to review what I have to say about how the stories and short cuts work differently in Radio vs. Manila
http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/10/16/stor= iesAndShortcuts.html

Several people have setup their Manila websites such that other people may join and participate in a discussion there, which could show you some of what you can do ... they might not want to let you have editor privileges on their sites, but certainly would extend enough so you can see how a lot of things work.  In fact I have a site I have not touched in a while that I setup with the intention of putting Manila documentation on it, then have posted almost nothing there, as I explored other topics.

I guess I could make you a member of that private site, and add a bit more documentation there, if you not find some other=20 benefactor.

One thing you want to be careful about is deleting messages involved in setup, you might think you not need some, but then you can have a broken site because they have functions that are not obvious to beginners.

Another thing you want to be careful about is template themes.  You might tweak your site to get a bunch of stuff you like, then switch templates, and lose what you tweaked.  Basically templates make massive changes to the preference settings, so in practical terms, a new Manila user needs to either
  • Look at all the different templates and pick out the one you like BEFORE you go tweaking with preference settings;
  • Keep very careful notes on what changes you make to your preferences, so if you lose stuff you can reconstruct it
  • SAVE your old Template before switching to a new one
Hi
 
I am a new user of Manila. I don't know if thi= s is stupid to ask but I would appreciate if anyone could help me with it. I want your help to figure out how do I start building my site with Manila.
 
Thanks,
Ashish.

-
Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora)
Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/
Al at home http://ryze.org/view.php?who=3DAl9Mac
Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/


--=====================_4404779==_.ALT-- From Manila-Newbies@userland.com Fri Nov 29 16:54:55 2002 From: Manila-Newbies@userland.com (Dan Mitchell) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:54:55 -0800 Subject: New to Manila In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021128235713.00a80af0@pop.sigecom.net> Message-ID: <4975DA1A-03BB-11D7-93EF-0003935562A8@mitchell.fhda.edu> I wrote an online tutorial for our College faculty that you may add to =20= your list if you are interested: http://faculty.deanza.fhda.edu/support/ Dan On Thursday, November 28, 2002, at 10:27 PM, Al Mac wrote: > Here is my directory of 100 people who have done documentation for =20 > Radio - some of them have also done documentation on Manila > http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/08/23/=20 > radioDocSources.html > -- d =A0=A0=A0a =A0=A0=A0n =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0m =A0=A0=A0i =A0=A0=A0t = =A0=A0=A0c =A0=A0=A0h =A0=A0=A0e =A0=A0=A0l =A0=A0=A0l music department | de anza college http://faculty.deanza.fhda.edu/mitchelldan/ office: 408.864.8511 apple distinguished educator | class of 2000