New to Manila
Al Mac
Manila-Newbies@userland.com
Fri, 29 Nov 2002 00:27:49 -0600
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Where are you located? I am sure that several people already familiar with=
=20
Manila would be willing to walk you through using it, with a few short=20
phone calls, assuming not extreme long distance.
You can get a free Manila site to play around with for 30 days at=20
http://www.weblogger.com/starthere
Tip: leave the password field not filled in at first, because you will=20
find that some inputs are invalid, but if you do every other field, it can=
=20
replace your invalid with something valid that you not want, so if you wait=
=20
until you see what is accepted before putting in your starting password,=20
you avoid situation like me creating sites I did not want (I wanted a=20
combination of digits and special characters that it would not allow)
There's lots of documentation on it, starting with that which comes from=20
the suppliers of the software. Check out the following examples:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/09/12/manilaPasswordChangeHow.=
html
Here is my directory of 100 people who have done documentation for Radio -=
=20
some of them have also done documentation on Manila
http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/08/23/radioDocSources.html
Userland's Manila Users Guide
http://manilanewbies.userland.com/usersguide/
Once you have your Manila site setup, you can get here by clicking on the=
HELP.
However, when first setting up your site, you have to decide whether you=20
want it to be open to the public to do anything to your site, or if you=20
want to get it ready for the public before you open it to the public ... I=
=20
can send you off-list, step by step instructions how to setup your site=20
private (not seen by google etc.) until you have got it looking nice and=20
ready to go public. (I not want to post here because my instructions are a=
=20
bit long)
Here is outline of topics you might want to consider before you setup your=
=20
site, explained why important by what I am offering to send you off list -=
=20
which is also on my PRIVATE documentation site, that I started then did=20
almost nothing with
=B7 What Capitalization do you want in Name of Site?
=B7 Is it Open to Anyone to Join without checking with You?
=B7 Is it for your Exclusive Use?
=B7 Is it for something in-between?
=B7 Is this Editors Only for the First Participants?
=B7 What kinds of Editors for which people?
=B7 Since your name will be on all posts, do you want some familiar=
way=20
that you are referenced ... such as in my case, I could be: Alister William=
=20
Macintyre; Al Macintyre; Al Mac; AWM; or some other combination of parts of=
=20
my name ... you may want to ask invitees before signing them up how they=20
wish to be known on your site.
You might want to review the descriptions of the different kinds of Manila=
=20
sites you can setup
http://manilanewbies.userland.com/directory/4720/typesOfSites
If you have used links on other systems, you might like to review what I=20
have to say about how the stories and short cuts work differently in Radio=
=20
vs. Manila
http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/10/16/storiesAndShortcuts.html
Several people have setup their Manila websites such that other people may=
=20
join and participate in a discussion there, which could show you some of=20
what you can do ... they might not want to let you have editor privileges=20
on their sites, but certainly would extend enough so you can see how a lot=
=20
of things work. In fact I have a site I have not touched in a while that I=
=20
setup with the intention of putting Manila documentation on it, then have=20
posted almost nothing there, as I explored other topics.
I guess I could make you a member of that private site, and add a bit more=
=20
documentation there, if you not find some other benefactor.
One thing you want to be careful about is deleting messages involved in=20
setup, you might think you not need some, but then you can have a broken=20
site because they have functions that are not obvious to beginners.
Another thing you want to be careful about is template themes. You might=20
tweak your site to get a bunch of stuff you like, then switch templates,=20
and lose what you tweaked. Basically templates make massive changes to the=
=20
preference settings, so in practical terms, a new Manila user needs to=
either
* Look at all the different templates and pick out the one you like=20
BEFORE you go tweaking with preference settings;
* Keep very careful notes on what changes you make to your preferences,=
=20
so if you lose stuff you can reconstruct it
* SAVE your old Template before switching to a new one
>Hi
>
>I am a new user of Manila. I don't know if this is stupid to ask but I=20
>would appreciate if anyone could help me with it. I want your help to=20
>figure out how do I start building my site with Manila.
>
>Thanks,
>Ashish.
-
Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora)
Al's thoughts http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/
Al at home http://ryze.org/view.php?who=3DAl9Mac
Cure cancer. http://members.ud.com/about/
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Where are you located? I am sure that several people already
familiar with Manila would be willing to walk you through using it, with
a few short phone calls, assuming not extreme long distance.<br><br>
You can get a free Manila site to play around with for 30 days at
<a href=3D"http://www.weblogger.com/starthere" eudora=3D"autourl"><font=
color=3D"#0000FF"><u>http://www.weblogger.com/starthere<br>
</a></u></font> Tip: leave the password field not filled in at
first, because you will find that some inputs are invalid, but if you do
every other field, it can replace your invalid with something valid that
you not want, so if you wait until you see what is accepted before
putting in your starting password, you avoid situation like me creating
sites I did not want (I wanted a combination of digits and special
characters that it would not allow)<br><br>
There's lots of documentation on it, starting with that which comes from
the suppliers of the software. Check out the following
examples:<br>
<a=
href=3D"http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/09/12/manilaPasswordC=
hangeHow.html"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/09/12/mani=
laPasswordChangeHow.html</a><br><br>
Here is my directory of 100 people who have done documentation for Radio
- some of them have also done documentation on Manila<br>
<a=
href=3D"http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/08/23/radioDocSources=
.html"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/08/23/radi=
oDocSources.html</a><br><br>
Userland's Manila Users Guide<br>
<a href=3D"http://manilanewbies.userland.com/usersguide/"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://manilanewbies.userland.com/usersguide/</a><br><br=
>
Once you have your Manila site setup, you can get here by clicking on the
HELP.<br><br>
However, when first setting up your site, you have to decide whether you
want it to be open to the public to do anything to your site, or if you
want to get it ready for the public before you open it to the public ...
I can send you off-list, step by step instructions how to setup your site
private (not seen by google etc.) until you have got it looking nice and
ready to go public. (I not want to post here because my
instructions are a bit long)<br><br>
Here is outline of topics you might want to consider before you setup
your site, explained why important by what I am offering to send you off
list - which is also on my PRIVATE documentation site, that I started
then did almost nothing with<br>
<font face=3D"Symbol">=B7<x-tab> </=
x-tab></font>What
Capitalization do you want in Name of Site? <br>
<font face=3D"Symbol">=B7<x-tab> </=
x-tab></font>Is
it Open to Anyone to Join without checking with You? <br>
<font face=3D"Symbol">=B7<x-tab> </=
x-tab></font>Is
it for your Exclusive Use? <br>
<font face=3D"Symbol">=B7<x-tab> </=
x-tab></font>Is
it for something in-between? <br>
<font face=3D"Symbol">=B7<x-tab> </=
x-tab></font>Is
this Editors Only for the First Participants? <br>
<font face=3D"Symbol">=B7<x-tab> </=
x-tab></font>What
kinds of Editors for which people? <br>
<font face=3D"Symbol">=B7<x-tab> </=
x-tab></font>Since
your name will be on all posts, do you want some familiar way that you
are referenced ... such as in my case, I could be: Alister William
Macintyre; Al Macintyre; Al Mac; AWM; or some other combination of parts
of my name ... you may want to ask invitees before signing them up how
they wish to be known on your site.<br><br>
You might want to review the descriptions of the different kinds of
Manila sites you can setup<br>
<a href=3D"http://manilanewbies.userland.com/directory/4720/typesOfSites"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://manilanewbies.userland.com/directory/4720/typesOf=
Sites</a><br><br>
If you have used links on other systems, you might like to review what I
have to say about how the stories and short cuts work differently in
Radio vs. Manila<br>
<a=
href=3D"http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/10/16/storiesAndShort=
cuts.html"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/10/16/stor=
iesAndShortcuts.html</a><br><br>
Several people have setup their Manila websites such that other people
may join and participate in a discussion there, which could show you some
of what you can do ... they might not want to let you have editor
privileges on their sites, but certainly would extend enough so you can
see how a lot of things work. In fact I have a site I have not
touched in a while that I setup with the intention of putting Manila
documentation on it, then have posted almost nothing there, as I explored
other topics.<br><br>
I guess I could make you a member of that private site, and add a bit
more documentation there, if you not find some other=20
benefactor.<br><br>
One thing you want to be careful about is deleting messages involved in
setup, you might think you not need some, but then you can have a broken
site because they have functions that are not obvious to
beginners.<br><br>
Another thing you want to be careful about is template themes. You
might tweak your site to get a bunch of stuff you like, then switch
templates, and lose what you tweaked. Basically templates make
massive changes to the preference settings, so in practical terms, a new
Manila user needs to either
<ul>
<li>Look at all the different templates and pick out the one you like
BEFORE you go tweaking with preference settings;
<li>Keep very careful notes on what changes you make to your preferences,
so if you lose stuff you can reconstruct it
<li>SAVE your old Template before switching to a new one
</ul><blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2=
>Hi
</font><br>
<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>I am a new user of Manila. I don't know if thi=
s
is stupid to ask but I would appreciate if anyone could help me with it.
I want your help to figure out how do I start building my site with
Manila.</font><br>
<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>Thanks,</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>Ashish.</font></blockquote>
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-<br>
Al Macintyre (macwheel99@sigecom.net via Eudora)<br>
Al's thoughts
<a href=3D"http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/<br>
</a>Al at home
<a href=3D"http://ryze.org/view.php?who=3DAl9Mac"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://ryze.org/view.php?who=3DAl9Mac<br>
</a>Cure cancer.
<a href=3D"http://members.ud.com/about/"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://members.ud.com/about/<br><br>
<br>
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