Nathaniel I. Cordova
Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:14:01 -0800
Dan et al:
Thanks so much for the postings. I just got the package, will download it
I will try to follow the advice here and see what happens. Another concern =
have is this;
I've activated the Apache server in Mac OSX (10.2.3). I have not served
anything yet through there, although I've been testing Movable Type, and wa=
planning on serving an internal site for my department with some
I've heard of difficulties running Frontier alongside the Apache server, an=
while I am brave in exploring and tinkering with tech stuff, I have only 10
days before classes start, so want to move quickly enough and learn as much
as possible about Frontier and Manila, as I can. I want to set up the
students early in the semester. Any hints about Apache and Frontier?
On 1/5/03 10:01 PM, "Dan Mitchell" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Hi Nathaniel:
> I did this with an online Introduction to Music course that I taught up
> until about a year age and it worked quite well.
> I had a larger class (50-60 students) who were to work in groups of
> 5-6. I set up a central class Manila site that all students joined. We
> used this for all materials and activities that involved the whole
> Then I cloned 10 copies of this site and manually adapted them for use
> by small groups of students. Rather than setting up the memberships
> myself I just told them which groups they were assigned to and then had
> them sign themselves up using the join now links on their sites.
> Without going into all of the gory details, the course was based on a
> collaborative learning model. A major assignment was something I called
> the "review cycle." I'll describe it so that you can see how the class
> and group sites worked together to facilitate this:
> 1. Students began by producing individual work on a cycle.
> 2. They posted their individual work into the discussion area of their
> assigned group, using its group Manila site.
> 3. The group members compared, compiled, prioritized, and edited the
> individual inputs to come up with a group version of the initial
> 4. The groups then posted this material into the discussion area of th=
> CLASS manila site. At the same time all of the other groups did the
> same thing with their own work.
> 5. Individual students did an assignment based on the posted materials=
> 6. The group members read the class-posted material in the sections of
> the site where they had posted, and then developed a group response
> to the postings.
> 7. Finally, I read all of the final posts and added commentary where
> There are all kinds of things I could tell you about how the groups
> made use of the Manila sites and other resources (AIM, email lists,
> telephone) to do their work.
> I did not encounter any significant technical problems, aside from some
> initial confusion about how to use the Manila environment.
> On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 12:18 PM, Nathaniel I. Cordova wrote:
>> I will be obtaining Frontier and Manila very soon. The purchase order
>> off! : ) But a quick question before the package arrives. I am
>> interested in
>> having my students (about 15 students) work in teams to develop course
>> to put on the web. This would be a semester long project that includes
>> annotated bibliography of resources, links, etc., commentary, original
>> essays by the students, images, etc. Each group would be responsible
>> completion of an excellent project on a subject matter covered in
>> class. I
>> envision five groups of three students each.
>> My question is whether I can do this easily enough with Manila. That
>> is, can
>> I grant students permission so that each particular team can work on
>> developing their site, ultimately having all team sites linked as part
>> of a
>> comprehensive course site? Would there be any major difficulties in
>> allowing them access to developing their own site? Anybody out there
>> doing something similar?
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