A new message was posted: Address: http://manila.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$1894 By: David Bayly (dbayly at udena.ch) The site I used a source has 404ed, and google lookups offer nothing new. Pity. Still, I have a copy of 1.0b4 , email me off-list if you still need it. This is a Manila site... http://manila.userland.com/.