Manila Not Applying Changes

Ryan Hale ryan.hale at t1host.com
Wed Dec 1 12:56:14 PST 2004


Another thing that seems to be happening is that I can't add members and have
them remain in the database.  They show up and I can see them at
/stats/members, but then they disappear.

Thanks,

Ryan


Quoting Ryan Hale <ryan.hale at t1host.com>:

> Hi Lawrence -
>
> Here are the answers to your questions:
>
> > Do the changes seem to be connected in any way to Frontier restarting?
>
> No, I don't think so.  I have always had Frontier running as a service on a
> Win2K machine, so I don't think that is the issue.
>
> > Do you have the preference to save all changed databases every minute
> enabled?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Can you post the exact text of the "message does not exist" error?
>
> >From http://rbs.t1host.net/stories/storyReader$11
>
> Sorry! There was an error: Can't display story 11 because it doesn't exist.
> The error was detected by Frontier 9.0 in mainResponder.respond. Webmaster:
> ryan.hale at levistable.com. Time: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:58:43 GMT.
>
> Regarding the test:
>
> It seems like the changes to the Stories and other pages are taking right
> now,
> but I can't make that jive with the error you'll see by going to the URL
> above.
>
> What I am finding is that it is the settings that are more the problem that
> the
> messages.  For example, at rbs.t1host.net, I have made changes to the
> Appearance settings (Changed siteName, turned off calendar on homepage, 1
> newsday, showed title) at least 10 times, but if you go to that site, you'll
> see that the siteName (title bar) is still the name of the original naming
> convention on the site, the calendar is there, title not there, multiple news
> days, etc.
>
> One thing that I've noticed is that it seems that the changes revert back
> most-often after I have made a change in Prefs > Advanced.  I've also created
> several relative paths on this site (both at the story page and using the
> Site
> Hierarchy at Prefs > Advanced) only to have these settings revert back to the
> previous look without any relative paths except /about.
>
> Finally, I did do some fiddling around with my personal site (on the same
> Frontier installation but in a different manilaWebsites database) and also
> had
> one change work incorrectly when I tried to change the Navigation Links
> appearance.  It reverted back on me after making a couple of other changes to
> the template, so it seems that this is server-wide instead of isolated to one
> site.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ryan
>
>
> Quoting Lawrence Lee <lawrence at userland.com>:
>
> > Do the changes dissapearing seem to be connected in anyway to Frontier
> > restarting?
> >
> > Do you have the preference to save all changed databases every minute
> > enabled?
> >
> > Can you post the exact text for the "message does not exist" error.
> >
> > One test:
> >
> > Make a change to a story.
> >
> > Wait a few minutes.
> >
> > Refresh the page to see the changes are still there.
> >
> > Try restarting Frontier.
> >
> > Check the story.
> >
> > Lawrence Lee
> > UserLand Software
> > www.userland.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: frontier-users-bounces at userland.com
> > > [mailto:frontier-users-bounces at userland.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Hale
> > > Sent: December 1, 2004 10:17 AM
> > > To: frontier-users at userland.com
> > > Subject: Manila Not Applying Changes
> > >
> > > Hello Everyone -
> > >
> > > I had a strange behavior begin today.  Manila is selectively
> > > applying changes to the databases.  Adding a new story or
> > > picture may allow it to show for a short time, but then it
> > > will disappear and present a "message does not exist" error
> > > when you visit it next time.
> > >
> > > The same goes for applying Preference changes.  I've changed
> > > the style sheet in Advanced Prefs and several changes to
> > > Appearance prefs today only to have them revert back to the
> > > old settings.
> > >
> > > This behavior doesn't seem to be isolated to one site as I
> > > have heard similar things from other users this morning.
> > >
> > > It does seem that it began after I flipped the Manila Sites
> > > database this morning, although I have created a site
> > > successfully and it is working (although it is one that is
> > > having the trouble).
> > >
> > > Has anyone seen this before or could you possibly give me an
> > > idea about where to start in troubleshooting this?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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