dumb questions

[Jim Byrne]

Miriam,

You don't have to run two sites - unless you want to have static rendering.
One Manila site can be used both for administration and as a live site (onl=
y
contributing and managing editors will see the admin and editing fuctions).

All the best,
Jim

on 10/10/01 10:55 am, H=FCrzeler at miriamh@picnic-terminal.ch wrote:

> Dear Jim,
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> Thank you very much for your prompt reply- it has helped me a great deal
> further. =20
> The biggest advantage of Manila for me would be the ability of separating
> form from content for editing purposes and allow other people to do the
> editing remotely without messing up with the design or html. As far as I
> understand i have to run two sites for that : one editing site and one
> static site The static site i can have anywhere in a server, but the edit=
ing
> site must be on a server running Manila/Frontier to be able to render to =
the
> static server. Is that it?
> Locally, it will be no problem to set the tcp/ip  (I also work with Mac) =
to
> run Manila while disconnected in order to develop a site. But to allow ot=
her
> people to participate in the editing, run a weblog, form scripts and thin=
gs
> like that, I guess I would have to look for a "Manila isp" or convince my
> partners to have it installed on their servers!
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> best regards
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> miriam huerzeler
> ---------------------------------------------
> picnic terminal - web design & graphics
> fone +41 (0)1 401 10 75
> mobile 078 608 36 00
> e-mail: picnic@picnic-terminal.ch
> http://www.picnic-terminal.ch
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>> Von: Jim Byrne <j.byrne@gcal.ac.uk>
>> Antworten an: Manila-Newbies@userland.com
>> Datum: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:25:23 +0100
>> An: <Manila-Newbies@userland.com>
>> Betreff: Re: dumb questions
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>> Miriam,
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>> You can run Manila on your machine locally  (in effect your machine can =
act
>> as both  Webserver and client), develop your Website using Manila - and =
when
>> you are ready render your site to a static server (i.e. to you isp virtu=
al
>> server). You will only be online when you render your pages.
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>> This assumes you know how to set up your TCP/IP on your machine to allow=
 you
>> to  run a local server while not being connected to the Internet. I have
>> done this myself on my Mac - but I don't know what the settings are for =
the
>> PC. I am sure someone out there is Frontier land will know how to do thi=
s.
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>> You can also find an ISP that offers Manila as a service. There are a fe=
w -
>> I could dig out the one's I've came across if this is the route you deci=
de
>> to take. If you want to develop Manila sites for other people who have t=
heir
>> own servers/ISP's you need to find a Manila provider who will offer stat=
ic
>> rendering. So you develop the Manila site - on the Manila providers serv=
er -
>> and then hand it over to them to manage themselves when your job is
>> finished. There is the small detail that they will need to pay both the
>> Manila provider and their static host provider (if indeed they need stat=
ic
>> rendering).
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>> Hope that helps.
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>> All the best,
>> Jim
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>> on 9/10/01 3:46 pm, H=FCrzeler at miriamh@picnic-terminal.ch wrote:
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>>> i have spent hours in the internet reading all the available informatio=
n and
>>> yet not found basic answers to my dumb questions.
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>>> my main activity is creating graphics for print and web, but i also hav=
e
>>> programmed full static websites, using adobe go live as editor in a mac=
.
>>> i also run my own website, which is placed on a isp virtual server.
>>> i do not have a fixed connection to the internet and thus cannot run my=
 own
>>> server.
>>> the way i usually work is that i have a copy of the sites on my hard di=
sk/
>>> diskettes, edit page by page and upload them to the server via ftp.
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>>> my questions are:
>>> - can i use manilla at all?
>>> does that program work on a local level (on my hard disk too) or only
>>> remote?=20
>>> -does my isp need to run frontier in his server, so i can use manilla?
>>> if he does'nt what can i do?
>>> - can i develop manilla sites for clients which have their own servers =
or
>>> work with isps, which i have no control over?
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>>> sorry, this is all too new for me and i want to make sure before i buy
>>> frontier/manilla, that it can be of any use at all.
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>>> best regards
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>>> miriam huerzeler
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> picnic terminal - web design & graphics
>>> fone +41 (0)1 401 10 75
>>> mobile 078 608 36 00
>>> e-mail: picnic@picnic-terminal.ch
>>> http://www.picnic-terminal.ch
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ian
>> University, Glasgow G4 OBA, 0141 331 3893
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