dumb questions

Hürzeler Manila-Newbies@userland.com
Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:55:14 +0200

Dear Jim,

Thank you very much for your prompt reply- it has helped me a great deal
The biggest advantage of Manila for me would be the ability of separating
form from content for editing purposes and allow other people to do the
editing remotely without messing up with the design or html. As far as I
understand i have to run two sites for that : one editing site and one
static site The static site i can have anywhere in a server, but the editing
site must be on a server running Manila/Frontier to be able to render to the
static server. Is that it?
Locally, it will be no problem to set the tcp/ip  (I also work with Mac) to
run Manila while disconnected in order to develop a site. But to allow other
people to participate in the editing, run a weblog, form scripts and things
like that, I guess I would have to look for a "Manila isp" or convince my
partners to have it installed on their servers!

best regards

miriam huerzeler
picnic terminal - web design & graphics
fone +41 (0)1 401 10 75
mobile 078 608 36 00
e-mail: picnic@picnic-terminal.ch

> Von: Jim Byrne <j.byrne@gcal.ac.uk>
> Antworten an: Manila-Newbies@userland.com
> Datum: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:25:23 +0100
> An: <Manila-Newbies@userland.com>
> Betreff: Re: dumb questions
> Miriam,
> You can run Manila on your machine locally  (in effect your machine can a=
> as both  Webserver and client), develop your Website using Manila - and w=
> you are ready render your site to a static server (i.e. to you isp virtua=
> server). You will only be online when you render your pages.
> This assumes you know how to set up your TCP/IP on your machine to allow =
> to  run a local server while not being connected to the Internet. I have
> done this myself on my Mac - but I don't know what the settings are for t=
> PC. I am sure someone out there is Frontier land will know how to do this=
> You can also find an ISP that offers Manila as a service. There are a few=
> I could dig out the one's I've came across if this is the route you decid=
> to take. If you want to develop Manila sites for other people who have th=
> own servers/ISP's you need to find a Manila provider who will offer stati=
> rendering. So you develop the Manila site - on the Manila providers serve=
r -
> and then hand it over to them to manage themselves when your job is
> finished. There is the small detail that they will need to pay both the
> Manila provider and their static host provider (if indeed they need stati=
> rendering).
> Hope that helps.
> All the best,
> Jim
> on 9/10/01 3:46 pm, Hürzeler at miriamh@picnic-terminal.ch wrote:
>> i have spent hours in the internet reading all the available information=
>> yet not found basic answers to my dumb questions.
>> my main activity is creating graphics for print and web, but i also have
>> programmed full static websites, using adobe go live as editor in a mac.
>> i also run my own website, which is placed on a isp virtual server.
>> i do not have a fixed connection to the internet and thus cannot run my =
>> server.
>> the way i usually work is that i have a copy of the sites on my hard dis=
>> diskettes, edit page by page and upload them to the server via ftp.
>> my questions are:
>> - can i use manilla at all?
>> does that program work on a local level (on my hard disk too) or only
>> remote? 
>> -does my isp need to run frontier in his server, so i can use manilla?
>> if he does'nt what can i do?
>> - can i develop manilla sites for clients which have their own servers o=
>> work with isps, which i have no control over?
>> sorry, this is all too new for me and i want to make sure before i buy
>> frontier/manilla, that it can be of any use at all.
>> best regards
>> miriam huerzeler
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> picnic terminal - web design & graphics
>> fone +41 (0)1 401 10 75
>> mobile 078 608 36 00
>> e-mail: picnic@picnic-terminal.ch
>> http://www.picnic-terminal.ch
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