Regular,intermittent crashes

[Kelly Thomas]

Hi Bill! I agree with you that Manila/Frontier is awesome. We've used  
it for years and I hope we can continue.

Sorry I'm late to the party with this response, I wanted to respond  
to this in a little more detail. i've heard others grouse the same  
problem. I have two servers at two different locations using two  
different ISPs. Both are Frontier 9.5 and at least OSX 10.2.1 One is  
an iMac with a bunch of RAM and the other is an XServe which is NOT  
running the XServe OS. (I wiped it when we got it a few year(s) ago  
and went back down to OSX client.

I've added the frontier script that quits frontier after about 10,000  
server hits. I'm only guessing because I've never seen it happen but  
Frontier seems to not end gracefully every time on both machines. I  
run an AppleScript which KeepsFrontierAlive and the users stay happy  
and know nothing of the problem. I'm not sure how long it's been  
doing this but it seems like a long time. Since the 1st of the year  
for sure.

Where I come from, the ONE THING a server should do is not crash.

I worry that these ungraceful exits will corrupt an important file.  
I've extended the frontier script to shut down (I don't recall...) at  
35,000 hits or maybe 65,000. I also removed it completely from one  
server thinking the error messages would go away. Both still show  
that same message. Naturally, it's not on the screen today. But I  
think the error message is something about unexpectedly quitting.

I hope the Programmers at Userland can hunt down this problem and  
make this stable server software or figure out what we're doing to  
it. I'll help in any way I can.

/kelly thomas
Southern Illinois University
http://www.dailyegyptian.com


On Oct 22, 2005, at 12:00 PM, manila-users-request at userland.com wrote:

> From: webmaster at userland.com
> Date: October 22, 2005 1:34:07 PM CDT
> To: manila-users at userland.com
> Subject: New Message: Regular,intermittent crashes????
> Reply-To: Manila-Users at userland.com
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> A new message was posted:
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> Address: http://manila.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$1395
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> By: Bill (crllen at bigpond.com)
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> Hello,
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> I should preface these comments by saying I think Manila/frontier  
> is the best publsihing/KM environment I have used, particularly for  
> the small not-for-profit/education sector that I am in.
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> I am curious if others experience regular/intermittent crashes of  
> Frontier. I say regular/intermittent because some days it will run  
> for 2-3 days without a hitch and then crash. Other days it will  
> crash every 24 hours or so.
>
> I do have the keepfrontierrunning script installed and it is a beauty!
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> I have tried to ascertain a particular pattern but am unable to. It  
> does often appear to crash just after I have written a new news  
> item and posted it to the home page.
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> The server crashes and I find I have to go back to the news items  
> and re-post it to the home page from the pending items list! I also  
> notice many, but not all crashes appear around midnight?
>
> I am on an X-Serve Server running 10.2.8 Server. It is dedicated to  
> Frontier/Manila and has nothing else running. I have over 80% Disk  
> space free and 512 MB of Ram on a G4 with a 1.33 Ghz processor. It  
> is two years old but has run without a blink! It is a fantastic  
> combination!
>
> I have also noticed that I often get the "server did not respond  
> within 2 Minutes" error when running the maintenance updates? Could  
> this be related in anyway?
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> Any thoughts on how I could get my configuration running for more  
> than a few days?
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> Do others with similar configurations have greater up time?
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> Cheers
>
> Bill
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> This is a Manila site... http://manila.userland.com/.
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