New Message: Licence Renewal & the Future

[Jack Foster Mancilla]

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Hello,

For quite a while I have also been looking for a way out of Manila  
because it does seem a cul-de-sac, abandoned to past tense.

Being a single person, maintaining a couple manila servers part time,  
I find it difficult to commit much time to developing my own code on  
the open source Frontier. ... And without a migration path to the open  
source, I find it an extremely difficult path to follow.

There are other concerns as well. ... How long will the open source  
Frontier function on my always newer machines?

I am concerned, and looking for a future direction.

Jack

On Mar 21, 2008, at 5:00 PM, David Gewirtz wrote:
>
> We have chosen not to renew our four Manila licenses, after numerous  
> calls
> and emails to Userland, none of which were renewed, we decided that  
> while we
> intend to continue to use the Frontier Kernel, we will be  
> incrementally
> extracting our data from our Manila files and repurposing that data  
> to .root
> files that don't use Manila resources.
>
> Instead of investing in new Manila licenses, we decided a few years  
> ago to
> invest in the open source code itself, which is why I started to  
> learn the
> internals and add extensions like the native mysql and sqlite verbs.
>
> This was a tough decision -- we really wanted to support Userland,  
> but due
> to the complete "dead air", we felt it safer to rely on our own  
> code. Right
> now, we run a separate server which runs one of our four licensed  
> copies of
> Userland's Frontier 9 and Manila, but they're running the last  
> updates we
> received while we were under our paid-for maintenance.
>
> Our main servers are all running our own code and open source  
> Frontier.
>
> -- David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: manila-users-bounces at userland.com
> [mailto:manila-users-bounces at userland.com] On Behalf Of
> webmaster at userland.com
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 6:54 PM
> To: manila-users at userland.com
> Subject: New Message: Licence Renewal & the Future
>
> A new message was posted:
>
> Address: http://manila.userland.com/discuss/msgReader$3089
>
> By: Bill (lists at whalesong.org)
>
> Hello again,
>
> We have 27 days left in our current licence and we do plan to renew  
> again
> but wanted to know what others are doing regarding long term  
> development of
> Manila? Are others developing migration/archive strategies just as
> insurance? Everything seems to have been in a holding pattern for  
> quite a
> while now.
>
> We are a little not for profit association that has been using  
> Userland
> products for many years. [Radio is still one of my personal  
> favourites]. We
> have about five/six years of content on our Manila server and would  
> like to
> know how best to ensure we protect that against the possibility of  
> Userland
> discontinuing their work some time in the future?
>
> This is not meant to be a negative email, just wanting to know what  
> others
> do to plan for continuity?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
> This is a Manila site... http://manila.userland.com/.
>
>

Jack Foster Mancilla
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Tomorrow is coming - and by that I mean only. ...
The future is out there in front of us, waiting for our arrival.